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High 3-A is destroying an infinite amount of mass, for example an infinitely sized universe
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Spider-Man No Way Home Revision: AP, Speed, and everything we didn't cover before (SPOILERS)
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Ah I think I'm starting to see the difference now! I still think it's worth thinking about but honestly I'm just glad the gauntlet has a solid tier now.
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Not really. The scene with Kafka shows that his power can fluctuate quite a bit and its not like Electro ever went all out against Spider-Man. He even later tells MCU Peter that he doesn't wish to kill him
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To be fair, if it fluctuates, then that means TASM Spidey was getting hit with attacks of varying levels of voltage
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Yes, but most of the time the average is around the 1.6 GJ range to my knowledge.
I mean, Max is already 8-C to High 8-C normally in TASM2 when in combat, and both Tobey and Tom did take the Pumpkin bombs up real close while being severely weakened so... I guess there could be a possible case for upscaling. But High 8-C enters the realm of outliers effectively because it clashes with the Iron Man Marks scaling and so on and so forth.
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I was more so talking about 8-C+ but eh. By the way? Is there a way to get the relationship between the little bars and the actual energy in electro’s chip thing? There’s a scene where he blasts Spider-Man in the face with his electricity and you can see the bars in his head and they also almost max out (even if it’s not for Spider-Man it might help with Electro)
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Agreed. I would contact a mod to check out the original post and comment, but I'll be honest, I don't know who to contact sadly
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Ahhh, yeah I can understand arguments for 8-C+
KLOL's calc involves that same device but it more so involves the ratings that are actually stated via volts and megaamperes on there
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Is that readable?
Baken384
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I posted this thread onto Sir_Ovens and LordGriffin's profile posts since their in the MCU Supporters page. Hopefully they can come and check this thread out
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Admittedly its a little hard to judge what kind of output Electro's putting out exactly there. It looks close to maximum, but not the full way, and the slanted angle makes it hard to read, like Average has brought up
Its unfortunate, but we can't use the electrical vomit scene for anything due to that difficulty. We're at least VERY lucky to get the values we did from KLOL
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Thanks a bunch, this helps a lot
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Yeah, it is, in the "I'm Electro" scene where Kafka experiments on Electro, Max's right temporal region has a display attached to it that gives out the mega-ampere values and voltage values, you need a really HD copy of the movie to see it in its glory tho, but fret not, that's exactly what my calc does.
It's funny you should say that, in the last 31 frames where we see the display on Electro's head in the Kafka experiment for the last time, right where Electro says that he also wants to know how powerful he is, which I have screenshotted for future DLC purposes, his head display swells up in the bars as it goes into the deep red alongside Electro's rage, and we get a reading of 45.8 MA and 30560 V, and I think I already mentioned that. It's 8-B in case you were wondering, but it's slightly lower than the initial 46.2 MA and 30808.2 V value that nailed us the 13.6 tons of TNT we got from it while he was relatively calm with only 4 bars.
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Eh, prolly won't matter in the long run, if it's charged up to the max, it's guaranteed to be 8-C at the bare minimum, prolly even higher since the mouth one actually lasts longer than a second, and we usually take one second of energy taken for watts. Remember, dude was pulling off High 8-C values without going overboard while being imprisoned.
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Didn't that (Electro vomiting on Andrew's face) happen while they were on the ground as well
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Baken384
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just like how everyone ignored max in TASM2 until he became electro?
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Yeah, he was, which is why that particular scene isn't necessarily usable for scaling, that and the mask seemed to have insulated against Electro unlike in NWH where Electro was actually torturing Andrew mid-air and making him scream in pain for a few seconds Volgin/Snake style.
In any case, prolly won't matter, Electro was pulling of 8-C values casually without the bars ever going beyond the 4 bar mark.
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Avi planned this all along holy shitjust like how everyone ignored max in TASM2 until he became electro?
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OH GOD I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO KNEW OF THAT
Mfs be like "Cameron's Spider-Man would've slapped". Bruh they were gonna call Sandman BOYD, thats definitely the lamest timeline
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Cameron, as in James Cameron?
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Yep. He had his own Spider-Man script pitch in the 90s. You can read the full thing online, but don't expect much comic accuracy...or PG content
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Garfield build anti-electricity equipment or something in TASM 2, no?
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The one and the same
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Yeah, at least the Web-shooters were, but powerful enough charges from Electro were able to power through it AFAIK.
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He rubberized his suit and later Gwen helped him Electro-proof his web-shooters
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Clock > Cloud-to-ground lightning
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I think keys are best for the alt universe characters. There are zero 8-C feats in TASM and that makes it a huge outlier. More than that, it's stated that the multiverse is infinite, that means that the characters who appeared in the movie don't necessarily have to be the exact same characters from the original source. They could very well be one of infinite different variations of the same characters with the same backstory.
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