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Special Grade Devil's Surgical Nightmare (Gojo and Makima vs Law)
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EldemadeDityjon
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Gojo recovered from Mahogara space slash with RCT so RCT should work btw.
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They'd have to do that from the jump, you can argue Gojo would do it first but Makima's never used Cosmo at all, let alone as a first option.
If they had prep I'd be inclined to agree with you since at that point they'd be like "okay **** this guy, let's kill him before he kills us."
azontr
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A bit different, Maho causes damage to space. Law doesn't cause any damage so there's nothing to "regenerate." from.
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azontr
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Maho's hax doesn't damage space, Maho's adaptation expands the range of the techniques target to BYPASS space.
Zabazab
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It really shouldn't be, like it's on his profile for a reason. The reason they turn into shit storms is because people wanna use their own interpretations instead of what's on the wiki. (This goes for and against the OP fans here tbh.) So it ends up wanked, downplayed then since people here are pig headed and don't wanna admit when wrong they'll die on that hill lol.
But yeah, it's pretty simple stuff for the most part.
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Can Law slice Makima to death - wait is Law NOT a Japanese? Then he does not need to fear a transferred suicide he just needs to rinse and repeat.
Quite sure Trafalgar Law can neg diff Sukuna too. Oh we have Law leagues above Sukuna already currently.
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"It's target was not Satoru Gojo, it extended all the way to space, existence and the world themselves... so as go cut them."
He quite literally cuts through space and a whole bunch of other shit.
azontr
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It does both, yeah. It expands the range of the technique to make it unavoidable, and slices existence to make it all-cutting.
"It's target was not Satoru Gojo, it extended all the way to space, existence and the world themselves... so as go cut them."
He quite literally cuts through space and a whole bunch of other shit.
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Tbh the better argument is that once he tries to RCT from Law's slashes he can't, realizing it doesn't do damage enabling Gojo to blow up the limbs himself so he can RCT them.
Since after that they'd be "damaged." meaning he could RCT once more.
Zabazab
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I don't think Japan exists in One Piece.
Makima's regen is a bit unique since it's based off of Law (lol) Manipulation, and transfers "attacks" she receives elsewhere, so if Law considers cutting people with his space hax an attack then it should in theory be transferred.
Though I know Law's regen neg gets argued over a lot so I really don't wanna start a fight over this aspect. Just pointing out a possibility.
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Law isn't Japanese, Oda said that if Law existed in our world and not the world of One Piece he would be German. So he wouldn't be affected by Makima's contract thingy.
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azontr
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Assuming Gojo and Makima have knowledge of each other's abilities, Gojo could probably just teleport out of the range of Law's room and let Makima keep him occupied with her damage transferring abilities (she gets sliced, comes back, rinse repeat) while Gojo charges Purple from afar.
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Good, One Piece finally did something right by not having Japan exist.
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Actually nvm, Gojo doesn't even need the wank in this match.
I don't even think Law can really kill Makima.
And Gojo has hax abilities he doesn't resist. Spatial manipulation, atomic matter manipulation, information manipulation (Type 1 and 2), void manipulation, etc...
Plus, his abilities affect the soul as well as the body.
Tbh I think this is a stomp.
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i legit wish i had more time to participate, super interesting battle
azontr
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@Deceived3596 are Gojo and Makima given knowledge of each other's abilities/how they work, or are they left in the dark on the capabilities of their teammate?
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Shadow still on that 23 hours out of the day work schedule, brodie going through it.
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I believe SBA grants knowledge of everyone's abilities to one another, so yeah, they would have that knowledge.
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If Law uses Radio Knife, that wouldn't work.
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KingTempest FRA
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Maybe that depends on how it would even work? Just because it's law manipulation doesn't mean that it's capable of reflecting all sorts of abilities. For this particular case, Law isn't really "attacking." anyone. Makima wouldn't be the target since all he's doing is displacing space itself which doesn't cause "damage.". So it wouldn't transfer to another person since Makima herself isn't being effected, it's space being effected.
Things like Radio Knife and such would get transfered, spatial displacement most likely wouldn't be transferred given it's nature. Makima isn't the target, she isn't being hit with a physical attack, etc. You can't even say that he has the intention to kill her since Law's intention would be to dispatch space, I.E nothing damaging or directly effecting Makima.
Not to say it's impossible but it'd just require proof that she can transfer something that isn't even an attack in any way shape or form.
azontr
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That doesn't really make sense. Law's intention in the fight is to attack the opponent, which happens VIA affecting the space. Affecting space is his medium through which he will attack his opponent, so the intent inherently applies to Makima.
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Again, Law wouldn't be targeting Makima, he'd target the space around her. The intention isnt to harm Makima, his intention would be to displace the space around her.
Same as he does whenever he's using it on marines, the intention is not to harm them but rather to cause confusion. The only person Law's ever intended to kill or harm in fashion like that is Doffy, Kaido and Big Mom who he never used his non lethal stuff for a reason.
The opponent isn't attacked nor are they harmed in any way shape or form. Amputate does not register as an attack, and when using it his intention is never to harm the opponent.
Thing is, Law's intention with Amputate isnt to cause harm to even attack Makima.
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That's not how amputate works. The intention behind it is not to attack the enemy but to displace space. His intention would be to effect the space around her, not Makima herself.
He'd be targeting and effecting space around her, not her actual body or anything of the sort. It's "I'm gonna displace space." not "let me **** this bitch up with spatial slashes."
azontr
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You're misunderstanding my point. I know Law doesn't deal physical damage through his Devil Fruit. The point is that his INTENT is to attack the opponent. Not that his ability does damage, but that when Law removes someone's limbs or whatever, his intent is to be dealing an attack to them that deters them in a fight.
If I were to use some super esoteric hax that doesn't do physical damage and target it at someone, my intent is to attack them with my ability. Whether or not my ability actually does conventional damage is irrelevant to my desire.
If I were to use some super esoteric hax that doesn't do physical damage and target it at someone, my intent is to attack them with my ability. Whether or not my ability actually does conventional damage is irrelevant to my desire.
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Shouldn't that be under fun and games? None of the characters are "duo" characters or that canonically almost always fight together (cuphead and mugman)
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ehh Makima's body has shown to function even when its separated. she was literally able to kick and fight denji despite being decapitated, she also has enough body control to avoid being incapacitated
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Forgot to give my reasoning. Here it is:
Since Law has prior knowledge of their abilities, he'd likely lead with this.
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i could easily say the same thing here.
I am fully aware of that, your misinterpreting my own argument here. Read what I said, the intent doesn't matter since it's not targeting Makima, it's targeting space. Furthermore, the intention and the whole point of Ambutate unlike his other abilities is that Law never uses it as an attack.
His intent is not to target Makima, that's not his intent. The intent is to displace space, he isn't focusing on her at all, he's focusing on the space within his room.
His intent is not to target or harm anyone, his intention is to effect space and space itself. The intent behind Ambutate isn't to attack but to displace space. I.E Makima isn't the target and Law has no intent to attack her.
azontr
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Which... inherently targets Makima...? He has to focus his intent to displace space ON Makima or he wouldn't effect her.
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Can extend at least this far
