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Wouldn't sonic get bodied by Arale then?
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Sonic vs Goku (strongest 5th 5-D character. Not smurf)
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Yeah if it is allowed for Goku to summon her i suppose.
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how in character is it for goku to summon arale
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The protective aura thingy isn't exactly accepted for Sonic. We discussed this with Greenshifter (and Omega as well) previously.
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Subjective Reality is passive, as it's an effect that happened passively in verse.
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Probably a 2nd or 3rd move.
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Correct me but his RW would work on multiversal+ scale (5D), correct?
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Yeah, it's 5-D.
Also invulnerability doesn't matter due to Goku's attacks having Durability Negation.
Meaning that if Sonic can't defend himself against that, the UT aura can just one shot him passively (good old Ki Crush)
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What about the Passive Causality Manipulation Sonic has
ShakeResounding
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Can we change this to Starfall Super Sonic?
I plan to remove Hyper Sonic from Modern in the future (spoilers) and this match is fun so I want it to stay. It also basically changes nothing as this isn't really an AP/Speed match anyways.
I plan to remove Hyper Sonic from Modern in the future (spoilers) and this match is fun so I want it to stay. It also basically changes nothing as this isn't really an AP/Speed match anyways.
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If it's aura based, I don't think it's gonna help much. Subjective Reality doesn't need to travel a physical distance.
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Also it depends on how potent it is.
ShakeResounding
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So @Livinmeme mind changing it to Starfall Super instead of Hyper?
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Goku:
Anything to add to Sonic? this could be inconclusive!
- Passive Existence Erasure
- Passive Nonexistence Erasure
- Passive Power Nullification
- Passive Subjective Reality
- Passive High Godly Negeation
- Passive Absorption (Universe Tree)
- Layered Fate Hax
- Layered Text Manipulation
- Layered Sealing
- Layered Space-Time Manipulation
- Dangerous Summons (I.E Arale, who absolutely murders Sonic)
- Passive Causality Manipulation
- Passive Conceptual Manipulation
- Passive Information Manipulation
- Passive Corruption
- Invulnerability to AP
- Purification
- Emphatic Manipulation
- Infinite Stamina
- Immeasurable Speed
- Immeasurable Lifting Strength
- Explosive Aura
- Law Manipultation
Anything to add to Sonic? this could be inconclusive!
Killerdrone123
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Damn cc goku still stands a chance even with this heavily nerfed version of him this guy is a beast
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incon fra
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It isn't that it is protective, it is just that he has an aura around his body, which give the nature of chaos energy, would be affected by the TP aura to bypass it and reach Sonic
Yeah, it creates timelines based on desires
But what i want to know is, how does Goku use it? What does he do with SR in character
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His power null can't affect Chaos Energy
Depends on how he uses it IC
Why does this matter when Sonic doesn't have regeneration
Of energy, which he can't do here for Chaos Energy
How would this help?
Sonic has 6D range to still attack goky even if he send him to the COC, also depends on how IC it is for him to use it
How often does he use it?
If this gets changed to Starfall Super Sonic then the corruption would corrupt his aura, and thus Goku himself
Also Sonic has blitz speed amps such as his boost and spin dash and homing attack, the conceptual, causality and info hax just need him to hit Goku once
Speed equalized
Sonic scales to moving a 6D object, so he has the advantage here on this
The ammount of hax matters as much as how they both use it IC, so i would like to hear clarification on how Goku uses his haxes first before voting myself
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Goku doesn't use Subjective Reality actively.
It's an effect that triggers automatically.
It's an effect that triggers automatically.
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Subjective reality would depend on what Goku want, it would depend on what he wants it to do, it being passive doesn't matter when it still depends on what Goku's IC actions and thoughts for it to work
So i ask again, what did it do for Goku when he had it? What did he used it for in his battle?
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SBA gives a pretty cut and clear state of mind to both characters, which is "I wanna win".
Subjective Reality would make reality reflect such thoughts Goku has.
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Yeah, which was also his mindset in the fight against Fu that he used the form......i am asking what did it do for him when he had this mindset
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Does it take Time Energy to use Subjective reality? In the sense they have to shape the time power for it to become subjective?
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No, the energy itself triggers that passively.
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How would I know what Goku has in mind specifically? That's just dumb.
We know it reflects one's thoughts and desires. Like Trunks wanted to save Gohan and he ended up saving Gohan.
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So if its based on the energy, what about Causality Manipulation reverting the energy from effecting Sonic?
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Goku would want to find a way around the aura, and so it'd trigger itself again, in a loop, I suppose.
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What about reverting it to even before goku had the tree
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It could work on paper, but if you wanna go down that route, I'd argue Goku's "I wanna win" initial thought would just lead him to win in a way he doesn't trigger the Causality hax.
We know it'd make Goku win, but the methodology could vary.
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Tbf I think SBA would mean Goku always has the Universe Tree with him to give him UT power, meaning that there isn't any prior event where Goku didn't have it to revert back to. If the OP set it up where Goku starts in one form but can transition to UT then that'd be acceptable, but Goku here has it always so I don't think that works
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Wouldnt it still take a cause and effect method to do that
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Op is supposed to restrict the 6D range coz this match is based on the strongest 5D guy list
but its up to him
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If 6D range is not restricted then Sonic can't even be on the list.
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what
you're not allowed to have stuff that is beyond 5D in the thread rules
why does sonic having 6D range mean he cant be on the list? its a possibly rating
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The OP needs to restrict it. Otherwise it's assumed to be usable.
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thats why i said "op is supposed to restrict the 6D range"
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Yeah, hence why I said otherwise Sonic can't be used.thats why i said "op is supposed to restrict the 6D range"
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