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You know damn well that goku horribly bullies with the keysword.Would this match still work if Goku had the Keysword?
Hakai is erasure though.Sonic via causality manip makes sense but mind destruction wouldn’t work since Goku resisted Hakai
(So for now I got sonic winning via causality)
You know damn well that goku horribly bullies with the keysword.
TPU Mechikabura vs solaris sounds likea very good match upSonic FRA
Put him against Solaris/The End, I dare you.
It's the opposite actually. Goku should resist getting targeted through all of time but not his mind getting destroyed, only erased.Sonic via causality manip makes sense but mind destruction wouldn’t work since Goku resisted Hakai
(So for now I got sonic winning via causality)
Exactly so erasure wouldn’t work on Goku but causality is his win conHakai is erasure though.
i know but sonic can still attack goku with other stuff via causality manip not just erasureIt's the opposite actually. Goku should resist getting targeted through all of time but not his mind getting destroyed, only erased.
Yupi know but sonic can still attack goku with other stuff via causality manip not just erasure
It’s not erasing Goku, just targeting his mind.Exactly so erasure wouldn’t work on Goku but causality is his win con
It is both acctuallyIt's the opposite actually. Goku should resist getting targeted through all of time but not his mind getting destroyed, only erased.
I mean with the UT I'd probably argue that physical attacks through all of time wouldn't work either since the ki would also crush him throughout all of time.It is both acctually
Hakai is mid godly erasure it’s soul body and mind erasureIt’s not erasing Goku, just targeting his mind.
that’s why I have sonic winning just for causality
goku can survive erasure causality is the only reason sonic winsIt is both acctually
UT goku just stomps with passives I think but it’s not UT so there’s no point In mentioning himI mean with the UT I'd probably argue that physical attacks through all of time wouldn't work either since the ki would also crush him throughout all of time.
This is the point, it isn't erasuregoku can survive erasure causality is the only reason sonic wins
You managed to misinterpret like every message you responded to.Hakai is mid godly erasure it’s soul body and mind erasure
that’s why I have sonic winning just for causality
manip(if Goku had resistance to it like he should which got removed for god knows why I’d have goku winning but it’s not accepted so Sonic wins for now)
goku can survive erasure causality is the only reason sonic wins
UT goku just stomps with passives I think but it’s not UT so there’s no point In mentioning him
VSBW standards™I feel like the mind thing is kind of semantics, how does resisting your mind being completely erased not protect your mind from being physically destroyed, they’re the same thing.
So it’s destroying the mind and not EE to the mind?I feel like the mind thing is kind of semantics, how does resisting your mind being completely erased not protect your mind from being physically destroyed, they’re the same thing.
so mind manip?This is the point, it isn't erasure
Are y’all saying it’s mind manip and not mind erasureYou managed to misinterpret like every message you responded to.
Different mechanics, one is an abbility erasing your mind, the other is someone physically attacking your mind as if it was a physical bodyI feel like the mind thing is kind of semantics, how does resisting your mind being completely erased not protect your mind from being physically destroyed, they’re the same thing.
That’s just NPIDifferent mechanics, one is an abbility erasing your mind, the other is someone physically attacking your mind as if it was a physical body
Also since sonic can attack conceptual beings like The End, i think that he could attack goku conceptually as well
Kind of, it is sonic physically punching goku's mind and destroying it via apSo it’s destroying the mind and not EE to the mind?
so mind manip?
Are y’all saying it’s mind manip and not mind erasure
NoAre y’all saying it’s mind manip and not mind erasure
Yeah, it’s just Sonic hitting a person’s consciousness with his body to damage it.So it’s destroying the mind and not EE to the mind?
Yeah but he used it offencinlyThat’s just NPI
I see thanks for the clarificationKind of, it is sonic physically punching goku's mind and destroying it via ap
I see that makes more sense it was confusing when some people said it was erasureYeah, it’s just Sonic hitting a person’s consciousness with his body to damage it.
Nah he gets folded due to causality manipWould goku's energy absorption and power null give him any advantage?
sonic recharges simply by thinkingWould goku's energy absorption
Which hax has it shown to null? Also as godofice said, causality kind of ***** him loland power null give him any advantage?
Considering the fact that goku can absorb higher than baseline 2-A amounts of energy in seconds at worst, sonic's recharge isn't gonna help him here. And goku was able to null out DK and DF. But as you said, causality ***** him over.sonic recharges simply by thinking
Which hax has it shown to null? Also as godofice said, causality kind of ***** him lol
thing is, sonic will constantly getting energy by every thought he has, but i guess that this would still kind of **** himConsidering the fact that goku can absorb higher than baseline 2-A amounts of energy in seconds at worst, sonic's recharge isn't gonna help him here.
which hax/powers does those encompass? power null here only nulls what has shown to be able to nullAnd goku was able to null out DK and DF.
yup, and if not causality, mind destruction ggBut as you said, causality ***** him over.
The strongest goku is Ssjb universe treesonic went so far, remember when hyper sonic was barely star level? and now he can win against the strongest goku on the site, i am so proud, and also surprised at how well this went, could swear that it was gonna be heated, but it was pretty chill
This thread probably broke several records.sonic went so far, remember when hyper sonic was barely star level? and now he can win against the strongest goku on the site, i am so proud, and also surprised at how well this went, could swear that it was gonna be heated, but it was pretty chill
The strongest goku is Ssjb universe tree
(but technically goku would probably win when he gets his resistances back since they were removed for dumb reasons but until then sonic wins)
now we only need the wally west fightThis thread probably broke several records.