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Ichikiro is durability negation because it one-shots the characters. Particle Beam Cannon is from the Diablon fight
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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Er, Diablon only has the antimatter cannon.
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^That's what I thought, as well.
MysticMania
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And I appreciate the reply, Theuser. If I may ask, why wouldn't it be death hax, since it's 'instakilling', so to speak? I'm not trying to say it is, per se, just wanting to understand how it's one but not instead the other, so to speak.
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I also find it wierd how the durabillity negation isn't specified. How does it negate durabillity exactly? Isn't it safer to assume it just grants the user a really strong move that one-shots anyone at thier level of power?
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Well, considering the moves that end up one shotting are no different than usual, I assume it is hax of some kind.
MysticMania
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Ah, and, strong moves in Battle can send opponents flying, so the fact that the one-hit KOs just drop them immediately could indicate it isn't a power thing, I feel.
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I don't know then.
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So... Sonic has conceptual manipulation now. How busted is it in most combat scenarios, really?
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Essentially he can touch both the CT pokégods (true form)/Chara now, easily incap Infinte Zamasu and kill any character that has type 1 AE of a type 1 concept with type 1, 3 or 4 acausality, low-godly regen and is "baseline" countless 2-B or lower.
Pretty busted for a mainstream character I would say.
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wait why does Sonic have CM?, the description is only NPI
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It’s NPI that affects concepts.
Oliver_de_jesus
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I know but you don't need to put it like that, just put NPI
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NPI doesn’t give you the ability to affect concepts by default, especially type 1.
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"The power to interact with intangible or non-corporeal beings or objects. Users can both see and interact with intangible, or non-corporeal, abstract, and nonexistent objects or life-forms and entities, allowing them to make physical contact and possibly cause har"
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That key word being “or.” Having NPI doesn’t by default give you the ability to interact with everything that is non-physical hence it should be specified.
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I know but you don't have to put CM directly, you can just say that he can hit concepts that are not the same as CM
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Affecting/damaging concepts is CM though.
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"It should be noted that the ability to interact with abstract entities (Type 1) directly as if they were physical objects is usually considered as non-physical interaction, and does not grant the user the ability to manipulate concepts in other contexts."-CM's Page
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Because not all abstracts are concepts.
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At this point I only know that you want sonic to have CM at any cost
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Bro there was an entire thread that lasted days for it. People will literally ignore CRTs and then whine after they are accepted
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because I am not aware all the time of the verse
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Why wouldn't they? They already allow multiplayer moves and the only reason we don't see them is because of Ian
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I really hope they keep the combat and Cyclops in this game, if only because I feel like it's what the Werehog should've been like from the start.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't hate the Werehog but I think fast paced combat fits Sonic a hell of a lot better then the God of War inspired style of the Werehog
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If Amy, Tails, and Knuckles are all playable in Open Zone, I wonder if they'll have Sonic's spider-sense, Cyloop, etc.
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If I may ask, how would Sonic and the Secret Rings grant Sonic fate + plot manipulation resistance?
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It should be explained in the page. Sonic resisted Erazor changing the plot of the Arabian Nights and the fate he placed upon him. It's very well explained in the justification. Re-read it and Erazor's page if you have any doubts
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Apparently Sonic Frontiers got nominated for an award at the Game Awards unfortunately it's currently losing in votes to Genshin Impact (gacha votes are too strong it seems).
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ANYTHING BUT GENSHIN IMPACT
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What's bad about too is that there are seemingly people voting for Genshin because they believe sonic fans have been "annoying and conspiratorial" this year and it'd be "funny" to see them lose can't make that up some verified individual tweeted that kinda stuff
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genshin impact is not supposed to be too long and has more text than fleshed out characters.
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Shahra stopped Sonic from being sacrificed, if that's the fate you mean. How would Erazor changing the plot affect Sonic, if I may ask? I'm not able to really grasp it, honestly. I could easily miss something, of course, but I don't see any part of SR's story where he defies plot or fate, at the moment.
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Again, it's right there in the page. Sonic became part of the plot when he entered the book, the same plot Erazor was manipulating and destroying. The "moment" is the entire plot
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People really like predatory mobile games it seems.
But hey, ultimately at the end of the day game awards are meaningless at the end of the day and we all can have our own game of the year.
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I'm sorry for asking still, I'm genuinely just having trouble grasping this.
What does Sonic becoming a part of the plot have to do with him resisting it? Did the game ever do something like "here are the events" and Sonic himself deviated from them, or, something?
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Sonic is part of the story, Erazor is destroying the story, Sonic isn't destroyed. That simple
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