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You mean the hole they made that obliterated the time eater?
What even is this question?
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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What even is this question?
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1.in fact yes, because time eater had to retire because of that
2.yes,sonic is immeasurable speed in base.
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Does the merging of games and IDW mean the Super forms canonically have a time limit now?
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Ian Flynn himself admitted time limit was a gameplay mechanic. Immeasurable speed also renders time limit null.
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Any contradictions to the games get eliminated
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Yes, even Ian admitted that if there were any contradictions the games would take priority. He had a tier list of "canonicity" before on one of his Q&A and the Games were at the top, then some Japanese promotional material recently alongside IDW and a lot of other stuff. Finally, older promotional material could be used if they hadn't been retconned.
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I don't personally buy them growing over time, so, I'm fine with that.
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that's because you don't want to
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It’s blatantly stated and shown throughout the games that the characters get stronger.
MysticMania
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Not blatant enough for me to buy it, myself.
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Whether you buy it or not doesn’t change what is objective truth.
MysticMania
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well objectively I don't buy it, so bam
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So does anyone here find that leveling up in Sonic Frontiers can kinda break the game? When you level up to a certain threshold, like say over level 25+ or whatever, so many of the common enemies and mini bosses fall like a stack of dominos. Titans are a little more beefy but I've seen people beat them in only a couple minutes after leveling up so much, this game definitely needed some sort of scaler to make enemies more tough to compensate for being much stronger
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I agree, to an extent. I don't level my Rings nor speed, at all, personally.
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Sonic isn't stagnant
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But how is that even possible my dude? We have numerous examples across the franchise.
- Advance 2, where they cast has defeated all the bosses before doing it AGAIN and in a row during the Boss Rush. In half the hits for each boss.
- Battle, where we get comments like Rouge stating Sonic has gotten much stronger and Sonic noting something similar for Amy. Hell, the entire premise of the game revolves around training and the cast getting stronger.
- Forces, the most blatant display of Sonic's power growth, where Infinite side-steps his Boost and ***** on him. Only for the exact opposite to be proven true, multiple times, and with a final boss that's stated to surpass even Infinite. No problems for Sonic there, though.
- Now Frontiers, where Sonic becomes an RPG character and gets 3.7x stronger (or maybe it was 3.2x) from Lvl 1 Atk to Lvl 99 Atk.
- This isn't even including the myriad of statements across manuals from several games that repeatedly state that Sonic (sometimes Shadow and some others) are at their new peak. That includes Rivals, Rivals 2, Shadow the Hedgehog, and 06 off the top of my head.
TL;DR - To say that these characters have failed to grown in strength at all across the franchise seems absurd to me, with all due respect, because of all the statements and showings that solidify proof for otherwise.
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Personally I think the characters are getting weaker overtime.
I think Sonic should be 10-C by now
I think Sonic should be 10-C by now
ShakeResounding
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The objectively correct answerPersonally I think the characters are getting weaker overtime.
I think Sonic should be 10-C by now
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Still stronger than all of us, since we're all 11-A bots on a screen.Personally I think the characters are getting weaker overtime.
I think Sonic should be 10-C by now
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Sonic is tier 0 because ZaStando said so.Personally I think the characters are getting weaker overtime.
I think Sonic should be 10-C by now
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who is zastando?and why we cannot say his name like Bruno.
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at least he shown proof i thinkSonic is tier 0 because ZaStando said so.
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well, it's a very, very long story.
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You don't have to tell me, just tell me why we don't talk about zastando
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Well I was pulling a Voldemort joke but the jist of it is that the CRTs he made was obnoxiously formatted/poorly formatted, as well as attempting to circumvent several banned accounts by the use of sockpuppets.
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This is random, but, would it be alright if I asked about some of Sonic's resistances listed on VS Battles? I was hoping someone would be willing to inform me more on how they work, in a sense, and how Sonic has them.
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So haven’t seen sonics profile or don’t know if it even has been updated (don’t care to check). But sonic does keep his cyber related power ups and gets rid of the side effect of being in intense pain in the last 1/5 of the game.
maybe that should be taken into account if not already.
And super sonic also gets the same benefits as he has those same cyber related moves base sonic gets.
BTW, by the power ups, I don’t mean the skill tree, I mean the actual moves he gets when he absorbs the cage amy, knuckles and tails are in, which is story relevant. Even sonic says he gets a boost.
maybe that should be taken into account if not already.
And super sonic also gets the same benefits as he has those same cyber related moves base sonic gets.
BTW, by the power ups, I don’t mean the skill tree, I mean the actual moves he gets when he absorbs the cage amy, knuckles and tails are in, which is story relevant. Even sonic says he gets a boost.
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That's The End giving him powers and that's already adressed in the pages
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He called plenty of stuff game mechanics tbf. He said any abillity that only showed up in one game isn't canon and was only there for gameplay flair, didn't he? Besides, can you show me where he said that?
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yes we already know that, but that does not mean that this should be the same
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It was on one of the Bumblekast episodes.
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This is actually just Ian's opinion since Sega does allow him to use those abilities, he just doesn't like using them
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This is random, but, is Ichikoro Gauge durability negation, or death hax, if I may ask? And, how so?
MysticMania
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Also, in Sonic's resistances, it says he resists the effects of the Particle Beam Cannon. I can't find where, though.
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