• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Then how does Eggman remember crisis city all of a sudden, if it was erased from everyone’s memory?
.......Sonic remembers and Blaze in this game does as well......are you paying attention?

Also.......Eggman doesn't need to remember, TE's was destruction of all of reality and space time, Eggman didn't exactly choose which places to erase, he just did it

Tails dialogue also sort of implied that having dimensional energy ripped out of a space causes it to become white space, so wouldn’t being an erased timeline also trigger that?
And you assume this is what happened to Cirisis City/06's og timeline becaaaaauuuuussseeee?
 
.......Sonic remembers and Blaze in this game does as well......are you paying attention?
Just because they remember doesn’t mean everyone does, Shadow doesn’t remember.
Also.......Eggman doesn't need to remember, TE's was destruction of all of reality and space time, Eggman didn't exactly choose which places to erase, he just did it
I assumed the argument was Eggman sent Blaze to Crisis City because he was aware of the connection they had to justify him remembering stuff, since he was having Time Eater specifically target his failures.
And you assume this is what happened to Cirisis City/06's og timeline becaaaaauuuuussseeee?
Cuz they mention time is a dimension, so having a space with erased time is equivalent to a space with sucked up dimensional energy.
 
Because realistically, if Eggman was trying to reverse his previous defeats that he remembers, Crisis City shouldn’t be a part of that due to being erased from the memories of most of the cast.
I don’t think this argument really works anymore thanks to Shadow Gens. I don’t remember whether it was just Black Doom who brought the Shadow Gens stages to White Space or if the Time Eater played a direct part, but either way the existence of Chaos Island (as well as Sunset Heights if it’s the latter) already shows that whatever motivations the villains have don’t need to match the stages in the game. Black Doom doesn’t get any closer to fuelling Shadow’s rage and taking him over by pulling specifically Chaos Island, and there’s no reason for Eggman to erase either Sunset Heights (a city he’s successfully conquering at the time represented) or Chaos Island (part of an area that gave him his future daughter).
 
I don’t think this argument really works anymore thanks to Shadow Gens. I don’t remember whether it was just Black Doom who brought the Shadow Gens stages to White Space or if the Time Eater played a direct part, but either way the existence of Chaos Island (as well as Sunset Heights if it’s the latter) already shows that whatever motivations the villains have don’t need to match the stages in the game. Black Doom doesn’t get any closer to fuelling Shadow’s rage and taking him over by pulling specifically Chaos Island, and there’s no reason for Eggman to erase either Sunset Heights (a city he’s successfully conquering at the time represented) or Chaos Island (part of an area that gave him his future daughter).
Fair play, but all those stages at least exist within the main timeline, albeit the future. As opposed to Crisis City, an erased realm.

The dimensional energy rewrite is still sticking with me as a big asterisk to Time Eater doing this to CC.
 
I don’t think this argument really works anymore thanks to Shadow Gens. I don’t remember whether it was just Black Doom who brought the Shadow Gens stages to White Space or if the Time Eater played a direct part, but either way the existence of Chaos Island (as well as Sunset Heights if it’s the latter) already shows that whatever motivations the villains have don’t need to match the stages in the game. Black Doom doesn’t get any closer to fuelling Shadow’s rage and taking him over by pulling specifically Chaos Island, and there’s no reason for Eggman to erase either Sunset Heights (a city he’s successfully conquering at the time represented) or Chaos Island (part of an area that gave him his future daughter).
It was Time Eater. We see him straight up do that with the ARK.
 
Not related to current convo, but did anyone bother watching the Shadow vs Mewtwo DB Cast ep yesterday?

Especially cuz I’m surprised no one’s even mentioned it on here yet.
 
It gets better. Did you hear about the cut scene with Movie Sonic jumping through portals of the multiverse?

Apparently, alternate versions of Sonic voiced by Jason and Ryan were supposed to appear but it was cut after they got Keanu Shadow. Though supposedly it might STILL happen in Movie 4
I think it's decently possible, to be honest. I mean with the fact that the DLC for SxS Generations in December is about Game Shadow's consciousness occupying the body of his movie counterpart, I can see the fourth movie or even another game introducing a multiverse to the Sonic movie franchise.
 
Not related to current convo, but did anyone bother watching the Shadow vs Mewtwo DB Cast ep yesterday?

Especially cuz I’m surprised no one’s even mentioned it on here yet.
I haven't. I'm just glad it exists, because it means there's a chance we might still get that rematch. Even if Mewtwo wins, that's fine with me as long as they respect Shadow. I think Shadow should win, but you really can make an argument for Mewtwo
 
Just because they remember doesn’t mean everyone does, Shadow doesn’t remember.
See, now you for some reason afirms that my affirmation was "everyone remembers"...........why did you put words in my mouth?

I assumed the argument was Eggman sent Blaze to Crisis City because he was aware of the connection they had to justify him remembering stuff, since he was having Time Eater specifically target his failures.
Nope, he made the TE target nearly all of existence, his failures included obviously, but not specifically

Cuz they mention time is a dimension, so having a space with erased time is equivalent to a space with sucked up dimensional energy.
.......again, this sounds like headcanon
 
See, now you for some reason afirms that my affirmation was "everyone remembers"...........why did you put words in my mouth?
~~Why do you keep doing so many ellipses~~ I meant that Eggman should have some onscreen feats of remembering to make it more believable he does, seeing as even those who fought Solaris don’t have guaranteed remembrance.
Nope, he made the TE target nearly all of existence, his failures included obviously, but not specifically
The cutscene before the final battle specified his failures, unless the remake changed that. But if he just told Time Eater to erase everything and Time Eater decided that should also include already erased space that he knows about somehow then, okay.
.......again, this sounds like headcanon
Maybe…it does line up with how the only stuff in white space consists of erased timelines, and crisis city was the only one that was an erased timeline before Time Eater.
 
~~Why do you keep doing so many ellipses~~
....................wdym........................? 🙃


I meant that Eggman should have some onscreen feats of remembering to make it more believable he does, seeing as even those who fought Solaris don’t have guaranteed remembrance.
....him supposedly sending Blaze to it for her connection to it

Not that it matters since he didn't even do that

The cutscene before the final battle specified his failures, unless the remake changed that.
Yeah, as the things he wanted gone.......statements and showings show all of existence/all of space time affected, you did saw why TE was 2-A at one point, right? Or the.........15+ scans saying "all of space time/existence" in the White Space section of the cosmology page

But if he just told Time Eater to erase everything and Time Eater decided that should also include already erased space that he knows about somehow then, okay.
i don't think he "told" the TE to do anything......i think he just nuked all of reality by controling it, it is a cyborg after all

Maybe…it does line up with how the only stuff in white space consists of erased timelines, and crisis city was the only one that was an erased timeline before Time Eater.
Again.......this is too much headcanon, it is an ok theory ig, but not something you can affirm
 
Rise up Infinite-chads. Better than Mephiles tisk tisk.
I still like him over either of the 2.
61Ql0VO.gif

....................wdym........................? 🙃
lMpnYgW.gif
 
i don't think he "told" the TE to do anything......i think he just nuked all of reality by controling it, it is a cyborg after all


Again.......this is too much headcanon, it is an ok theory ig, but not something you can affirm
Shouldn’t TE have some kind of cosmic awareness then? For being able to detect erased timelines to affect them.
 
Well, just not sure if “erased” timelines still exist as part of the multiverse, I mean we technically have Roblox showing ‘06 Silver exists but, feels weird to rely on that.
 
Okay, can somebody PLEASE give me a source that Speed Simulator is canon? I keep seeing it brought up, but nobody has posted anything about it.
It was posted a couple pages ago, but Nibroc (The Game's dev) confirmed it on Discord after Sega refused one of his pitches. Basically he wanted to add a dead character and Sega said no, and then explained he couldn't because the game is canon.
 


Honestly, they could very well set up a proper digital archive where fans can check up on updated content, for sure would be good to give for sure updated releases that you can't on just printed media.

Of course, printed media will always exist, but going on an expanded version of what Sonic Channel has (But now translated to the whole world), would for sure do great things for Sonic.


Do a "Life in the World of Sonic The Hedgehog" website just to put Sonic world content, fans would love that.
 
Not related to current convo, but did anyone bother watching the Shadow vs Mewtwo DB Cast ep yesterday?

Especially cuz I’m surprised no one’s even mentioned it on here yet.
Yeah, pretty much Jukem argued Mewtwo wins cuz relative stats (Multi+ infinite speed even in base cuz RR), magic room and trick disabling the chaos emeralds, pressure/havoc robe/synergy stone being able to massively drain Shadow’s stamina so he leaves super form, future sight, disabling inhibitor rings with magic room so Shadow explodes in super form like Gerald predicted, his mind control bypassing Shadow’s resistance due to affecting multiple people at once vs Black Doom affecting just one at a time, Mewtwo Y having time stop via the Genesect movie, and maybe other stuff I’m forgetting
 
I guess he was under the impression that Shadow would explode in general if taking the rings off in anything besides base form, which is an interesting theory to see if maybe super shadow’s invulnerability or the chaos emerald’s healing could save him.
 
Gonna be honest a lot of them weren’t great.
the Shadow guy said that Shadow was infinite speed off Solaris and vague Multiversal, noted how Shadow had a time stop that Mewtwo didn’t counter, how the item moves don’t work on transformation stones, how speed swap affects priority and not the actual speed stat (which he got wrong), but a lot of it was just meme args about Shadow having a gun and being cool.
 
Gonna be honest a lot of them weren’t great.
the Shadow guy said that Shadow was infinite speed off Solaris and vague Multiversal, noted how Shadow had a time stop that Mewtwo didn’t counter, but a lot of it was just meme args about Shadow having a gun and being cool.
Damn. And Shadow still won by a lot? Based.
 


Honestly, they could very well set up a proper digital archive where fans can check up on updated content, for sure would be good to give for sure updated releases that you can't on just printed media.

Of course, printed media will always exist, but going on an expanded version of what Sonic Channel has (But now translated to the whole world), would for sure do great things for Sonic.


Do a "Life in the World of Sonic The Hedgehog" website just to put Sonic world content, fans would love that.

I remember seeing some official Sonic magazine that came out recently (I think it did anyway) and seeing info about how Sonic's brain is able to navigate tricky terrain because of his super-speed, wears white gloves to possibly protect his hands (but more likely because they "look good") and that his sneakers are tough enough to withstand his super-speed. They also said that Eggman's IQ is over 300 too
 
Back
Top