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It is imo, having a clearly-defined scaling chain always helps and Infinite being > Pre-DER (Death Egg Robot) as you mentioned should be more concretely said on his pageBut I'll let y'all decide if what I've shown is note worthy of some small changes or not
I agree, though I kind of worry that it would be seen as redundant because Sonic did grow to damage and keep up with DER after defeating Infinite so one could say it'd be redundant. But I have a potential idea if you think it has merit.It is imo, having a clearly-defined scaling chain always helps and Infinite being > Pre-DER (Death Egg Robot) as you mentioned should be more concretely said on his page
Nope, waiting on 1 more staffWas the upgrade/downgrades thread applied?
Nah, and in fact the page for the Forces DER implies that the Triple Boost was a necessity iirc, so I agree that it's equal above any one of them but below the combined effort of all 3.Considering that the Death Egg Robot was ultimately destroyed with a Triple Boost from Classic Sonic, Modern Sonic, and the Rookie, would you be against the idea of the Death Egg Robot being stronger then them individually but not collectively during Forces? I mean Sonic should relatively scale to DER since he damaged and kept up with it, and obviously he is stronger then it by far now, but my thought was that it helps get rid of the awkwardness of Sonic being unable to defeat a full powered Infinite but then went on to defeat something stronger then it and acknowledging that he needed some help to defeat DER. This is just my head canon and it may not make sense to you, but that's just how I would explain the sudden shift prior to Frontiers if you get my thought process behind it you know?
Yeah I just took a look at DER's profile and it states in his durability section: "Able to take sustained fire from the Burst Wispon, which demolish Egg Pawns in one shot. Its inner-mecha can take an onslaught of attacks from Modern Sonic, Classic Sonic, and The Avatar, though it was ultimately destroyed by a "Triple Boost".Nah, and in fact the page for the Forces DER implies that the Triple Boost was a necessity iirc, so I agree that it's equal above any one of them but below the combined effort of all 3.
infinite says that the phantom ruby recharged in the middle of the fight, so by all accounts, they fought with a full powered Infinite in the endYou know I've been sitting on this opinion for quite a hot minute and, after rewatching all the cutscenes of the game, I think that Infinite should be stronger then Sonic was during Forces but before the IDW run and into Frontiers.
"Why?" You may be wondering? Because while Sonic was able to do a lot better then he did against Infinite after six months of imprisonment, Infinite was able to defeat Sonic again but didn't kill him because he saw it as not being worth the effort, with Sonic even noting that he had to find the "secret of Infinite's power". And while it is true that Sonic and the Rookie defeated Infinite at the end of the game, I think it should be noted that this was because Infinite was explicitly not at full strength due to his Phantom Ruby being weakened as stated by both Tails and even Infinite himself before duking it out with Sonic and the Rookie. Of course one could argue that it's irrelevant to the scaling since Sonic assisted in the defeat of the Death Egg RobotWhich is kind of stupid that Sonic grew to defeat the Death Egg Robot yet sought fit to weaken Infinite's source of power before challenging him again, but Forces is a terrible game so I won't waste my breath, but I think at the same time Infinite should be stronger then Pre Death Egg Robot Sonic and was defeated because he was weakened prior to the fight.
But I'll let y'all decide if what I've shown is note worthy of some small changes or not
Huh, that's actually a pretty good point that I missed there. Then wait a minute, why would the writers make it a story point to have Sonic and his friends try weakening Infinite when the guy can just recharge the Ruby on a whim? And I know Sonic's got really decent AD, but **** I realize now that whole thing sub plot was a big waste of time.infinite says that the phantom ruby recharged in the middle of the fight, so by all accounts, they fought with a full powered Infinite in the end
Last time I checked it's still feats > statements and well between Egg Reverie Zone and "Classic" Sonic even being in Forces that's enough evidence in of itself but I pretty sure there's statement in either prequel comics or NPC dialogue.Is there any explicit statement of The Phantom Ruby be able to distorts time and space?
Well currently on Infinite's profile, it's stated that he defeated Pre-Forces Sonic with ease but nothing about him being stronger then Sonic through most of Forces' run time. That's why I brought up those clips of Infinite defeating Sonic in their second rematch and Sonic seeing it fit to weaken Infinite's source of power.I thought Infinite being stronger than Sonic for most of Forces was already accepted.
i mean......they would still scale since they can harm him individually, maybe downscale, but nothing too big for them to not scale regardlessWell currently on Infinite's profile, it's stated that he defeated Pre-Forces Sonic with ease but nothing about him being stronger then Sonic through most of Forces' run time. That's why I brought up those clips of Infinite defeating Sonic in their second rematch and Sonic seeing it fit to weaken Infinite's source of power.
One snag I didn't catch on to or knew about, however, was that Infinite was able to recharge the Phantom Ruby back to full capacity yet lost to Sonic and the Rookie as @omegabronic showed yesterday. Personally I'd argue that like the Death Egg Robot, Infinite was stronger then Sonic individually but weaker then him and the Rookie combined when they used teamwork to defeat him with a Double Boost...but that's kind of head canon so I'd rather hear from other people and their take on the scaling matter
Yeah I should've probably clarified that a little. I do agree that they should downscale since they can damage him individually, just that Infinite should be a bit more strong since they had to defeat him with a Double Boost in the end.i mean......they would still scale since they can harm him individually, maybe downscale, but nothing too big for them to not scale regardless
Yeah I'm probably making it a bigger deal then it should be, huh? I just figured that, if it was already accepted, then it wouldn't be too much trouble to put that down in Infinite's profile or tweaking Sonic and DER's justification to align with the information that's been presented if that makes sense.This feels like a small change that you don't need a CRT to do.
they can do it with their range if they so desireso can the Super Forms preform the Temporal Nuke like how they did it before it got changed to range? or how do they do it now
So in a vs match does it still happen the way it did beforethey can do it with their range if they so desire
They had offensive time travel till it got swapped to rangeTalking about this, shouldn´t Super Shadow and Super Silver (And pretty much every single super form user) have Time travel due to they being capable of travelling to the future and the past to defeat Solaris?
Immeasurable speed, that is a default thingTalking about this, shouldn´t Super Shadow and Super Silver (And pretty much every single super form user) have Time travel due to they being capable of travelling to the future and the past to defeat Solaris?
I know, that´s just an additional thingImmeasurable speed, that is a default thing
Yep, it's been the blog used for about 2-ish years now, it predates the enforcement of the rule which is why it lacks comments.Can anyone confirm whether the blog Accelerated_Evolution made the verse page link to is actually accepted or not? I couldn't find any staff members saying that in the comments of it.
That's already immeasurable speed.Talking about this, shouldn´t Super Shadow and Super Silver (And pretty much every single super form user) have Time travel due to they being capable of travelling to the future and the past to defeat Solaris?
That's already immeasurable speed.
I know, that´s just an additional thing
I'm not expecting anything until we see the official announcement trailer at the State of Play tomorrow, it's a 24/7 policy of mine to never take leaks seriously until we see such things officially happening in the first place.Any expectations from the Sonic x Shadow Generations leaks?
Gens with more bugs and a Shadow skin.Any expectations from the Sonic x Shadow Generations leaks?