Basically there being the time of the universes, and then the time for the space that holds them, as clearly it's independant of them and would still exist if the universes vanished (if anything such space was expanding as that happened).
it is being downgraded to a overly utter blitz above 4x, to the point that it statues 4x, so in admitting that a Super Forms raises the speed in a greater scale to that you are admitting the circular scaling it would cause
You still haven't proven the premise. Why should a Super form naturally be faster than a base character's speed amp when base characters have so much evidence of being relative in speed to Super forms and there is no actual contradiction to this?
so according to you the Chaos Emeralds do not boost speed whatsoever?
Like I said, they don't boost speed to the point that Super forms completely blitz base characters. Unless someone can find evidence that suggests otherwise.
Super Neo Metal casually blitzing Sonic and Knuckles at the same time, and about the list you showed earlier
massive outlier, unless you seriously want to argue that Classic Knuckles is immeasurable in speed, good luck backing that up
what is accepted is it reaching to where the battle took place, the whole gimick of the fight is Sonic amping Eggman's Eggmobile to fire at Gemerl, so that already disqualifies as a base form level feat
you mean when Modern Sonic has consistent feats of growing to the level of the super forms of his past? yeah, what of it? this doesn't prove that Super Forms don't boost speed too much, it proves that Sonic grew that much
Classic needed the emeralds to fight Phantom King, and the Death Egg Robot in forces......go to the point above really
by a surprise attack, where moments prior he utterly blitzed and dominated both Sonic and Knuckles at the same time, at best it is an outlier for Shadow
what about the Time Eater?
Giganto literally blitzed Sonic to grab him in their first encounter, where Sonic couldn't do anything to not get caught, so no
you mean when none of the said projectiles where hitting them in the first place? yeah ok
Super Forms grow alongside the user, him having greater feats wouldn't make the gap between them smaller, it would remain the same
Yeah. Weakest point, like I said.
Him having his own immeasurable speed feats would not make the gap qualitatively higher anymore, no. That would imply Super forms have 2nd degree immeasurable speed with no evidence.
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i only brought up 1 so far, what do you mean "both"? and IDW is secondary canon yet you use as a main point? if so you must also use the showing i talked as a counter to that
if you mean the time travel, 1 he needs the post signs to do that and 2 that is made by him running at light speed
show me?
if it would be an outlier then........yeah it wouldn't be valid
after Gemerl went into space, Super Sonic also did, and then after the 2 left the screen Eggman followed, he was just going to the place the fight would be, he was actually blitzed by Gemerl moments prior when he slammed Sonic into him
no idea what he wanted, don't think that it was ever said
i mean.....i would be more comfortable with a "possible" rating, but yeah
yeah, more comfortable with a possible as i said tho
he was, they couldn't even react to him at all while he taunted them about given how casual he was
....with him holding back to tease Sonic that is
Stomp to go down quickly and dodge, enough said
yeah
it would, it would make them just that much faster than baseline, there is no "2nd degree immeasurable speed" without multiple temporal dimensions
IDW countradictory
Small Building level Sonic
Starline is just that stupid. Don't worry.
Small Building level Sonic
or we can assume that this was a low 2-C explosion, with a range of a few meters (this is a joke, in case you didn't notice)
Small Building level Sonic
it will not be the only time when something that has not universal range can probably damage a universal being
Yup, most definitely
In one of the Season 3 episodes you see Sonic and Tails (with the wrong sprites) fight Gemerl and Eggman. Which is why Ian said that it happens sometime after Advanced 3 but he doesn't know the exact time after Advanced 3.
So does this mean 1st key sonic has the chance of becoming 2-C?
Why would Sonic be 2-C?
It's Segover, we can't Ninten-do this
i mean i guess anyone could have understand that
Same thing for AP and Durability. Multiple games (especially 3&K) do seem to depict Super as just being flight+invincibility, and no other changes to the user. I don't agree to it, at all, but speed has as much support as the other two stats, do.
I actually don't mind IDW being canon to the games since it's biggest inconsistencies are just characterization diffrences that don't surpass what the games themselves sometimes do, also it's a direct sequel to a mainline game so there is a clear connection.
