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...which the Queen Lancer tanked in Volume 5
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No one, its just to show that its consistent for Dust to do stuff of that level when large amounts of it are usedWho would even scale to 8-A in volume 1?
Problem is for the feat from Volume 6 Weiss outright froze water rather than just creating iceI recall that the counterargument was that Ice Dust appears to be a small container that release stored ice rather than something that freeze the air, since Rock Dust is a small container that releases much larger stored rocks. So freezing calcs are inaccurate.
Me too.Personally, I am fine with scaling to the 8-A ice feat.
And oscarDecided to drop this here, since this CRT is about implementing calcs.
So this calc was looked at and deemed good to use for the low end, which would upgrade both the Maidens and Salem.
Oscar and the most recent version of Ozpin yeah but not OzmaAlso wouldn’t Ozpin get that as well? Oscar did that using The Long Memory, it’s not like he couldn’t do the same if he was in control.
I mean its not lik we're scaling anyone to the freezing itself, its literally that one full canister of Ice dust is capable of an 8-A freezing feat and then the Lancer Queen tanked numerous canisters full of the same kind of Dust being used as a bombI just want to say due to the recent heat revisions, ice feats don’t physically scale to characters. The ice ap doesn’t even scale to whoever tanks it. Tanking it revolves entirely around temperature now. If you preform a 5-A feat through heat, but that heat was only 100 degrees spread over a cartoonishly large area, you only need to resist 100 degrees to face tank it. Nobody should scale to the ice feats. Doom’s 8-As were downgraded specifically because they scaled to a heat feat. Also, unrelated to this thread, I just realized I need to downgrade another character due to the heat revisions.
Its not facetanking a heat feat though, its facetanking an 8-A explosionThat’s the exact same scenario Doom had. They face tank numerous 8-A Heat attacks. They were downgraded. Face tanking the ice won’t scale to the Lancer, face tanking ice attacks only scales to elemental resistance now, not to physically durability.
Might want to make a thread about it then because you could viably reupgrade the verse, the revisions were never put through and Dargoo dropped the subject as a lot of people disagreed with himNo the heat revision was not rejected I can think of many verses that have been downgraded because of it. Doom being a prime example.
The 8-B calc was rejected in the very old original downgrades. It was recalced to 9-A. That’s why the lancer hasn’t been 8-B for years.
Dude, the entire problem that came from heat feats was that 9 times out of 10 they had no evidence that the energy used to heat or cool stuff could be translated to directly applied force. That isnot the case here as the same Dust that Weiss uses to create ice was used as an explosiveIt has everything to do with heat. That explosion isn’t 8-A. The 8-A part comes from the ice dust.
The dust with the 8-A feat was ice dust. Ice dust being able to be a fiery explosion doesn’t make any sense. The explosion would be from the other dust (the big explosion that hit the lancer is what I’m referring too). Also the ice explosions aren’t anywhere close to 8-A and the 8-A feat is purely a freezing one. It doesn’t translate to the explosion unless shown or stated, and neither is the case here because the explosion are clearly not 8-A and dust doesn’t have any statements that the freezing and explosions are the same.Dude, the entire problem that came from heat feats was that 9 times out of 10 they had no evidence that the energy used to heat or cool stuff could be translated to directly applied force. That isnot the case here as the same Dust that Weiss uses to create ice was used as an explosive