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"It makes 0 sense and constitutes utter bs."
Sorry if it sounds agressive. It isn't against you guys, but it being used and accepted in threads that "Medaka's the hero of her series so she wins" is the same level of reasoning of "Saitama One Punches anything because that's what he's about on his story".
It literally ammounts to "Medaka is the main character so she wins."
So, as this has been bugging me for quite a while now, I'll be utterly destroying this argument.
First off: It's NOT specified as an ability in-verse. They just say it's like that, someone who's born in x number of years and can't be defeated. Ajimu specifically states that when it comes to Abilities/Abnormalities, she has Alibi Block to say nope to that.
She outright states "nobody" can beat Medaka but it has nothing to do with her skill, as she has an ability that nullifies any skill. So no, the Hero is not a "skill" of any kind. In fact, I don't remember a single instance in the WHOLE series where it's adressed as a skill rather than saying "oh, if this was the world of Shonen Jump she would be main character so no one can beat her" . It literally says "because she's Medaka, she'll always win, she's just that good".
Why do we take that to mean, even outside her own verse, she always beats anyone? So I guess you throw Medaka against Yog Sothoth and he's dead meat too, right? Because as stated in the story "there's-no-way-she-loses". This is borderline Saitama one punches levels of reasoning, with all due respect.
I should also mention that Najimu Ajimi, who makes this comparison, is outright stated to have a disease at the end of this arc where she fully believes the world is a manga, "Simulated Reality" . And constantly makes comparisons with its reality to a manga. Like when she says this, or when she says she will end the manga before the anime starts. Or like she says "the one who is more main character wins" . She literally says "Oh Medaka killed her parents so she's less of a main character" .
She also mentions at some point that a last boss/villain qualifies for the existence that always loses and that's what Kumagawa is closest to. Because that's what villains do. They lose in the end. So by that logic every villain character around should always lose threads too because PLOT says so. Screw abilities and logic, no? We are going by Medaka Box's rules and applying them for EVERY verse out there as the rules character go by whenever we say Medaka wins because plot/main character.
It makes no sense.
By the way, you know who else Ajimu says would qualify for this supposed main character power you have been accepting here? The one who never loses?
All of these Guys.
So are we taking Goku and Yusuke Urameshi having passive plot manipulation and always winning even in threads because he's the main character of his series and because of that wins in Dragon Ball so he should win in threads too when?
The Flask Plan Ajimu was developing had Iihiko Shishime as that kind of absolute being in mind too. Again, the reason for her comparisons with Manga terms like Main Character over and over is extensively revealed to have been caused by her disease. It's her disorder. Even the Flask Plan existing was influenced by that, too .
My Revision is, pure and simple:
Remove The Hero from Medaka. It makes absolutely, no sense. And that's coming from someone who loves this series.
Sorry if it sounds agressive. It isn't against you guys, but it being used and accepted in threads that "Medaka's the hero of her series so she wins" is the same level of reasoning of "Saitama One Punches anything because that's what he's about on his story".
It literally ammounts to "Medaka is the main character so she wins."
So, as this has been bugging me for quite a while now, I'll be utterly destroying this argument.
First off: It's NOT specified as an ability in-verse. They just say it's like that, someone who's born in x number of years and can't be defeated. Ajimu specifically states that when it comes to Abilities/Abnormalities, she has Alibi Block to say nope to that.
She outright states "nobody" can beat Medaka but it has nothing to do with her skill, as she has an ability that nullifies any skill. So no, the Hero is not a "skill" of any kind. In fact, I don't remember a single instance in the WHOLE series where it's adressed as a skill rather than saying "oh, if this was the world of Shonen Jump she would be main character so no one can beat her" . It literally says "because she's Medaka, she'll always win, she's just that good".
Why do we take that to mean, even outside her own verse, she always beats anyone? So I guess you throw Medaka against Yog Sothoth and he's dead meat too, right? Because as stated in the story "there's-no-way-she-loses". This is borderline Saitama one punches levels of reasoning, with all due respect.
I should also mention that Najimu Ajimi, who makes this comparison, is outright stated to have a disease at the end of this arc where she fully believes the world is a manga, "Simulated Reality" . And constantly makes comparisons with its reality to a manga. Like when she says this, or when she says she will end the manga before the anime starts. Or like she says "the one who is more main character wins" . She literally says "Oh Medaka killed her parents so she's less of a main character" .
She also mentions at some point that a last boss/villain qualifies for the existence that always loses and that's what Kumagawa is closest to. Because that's what villains do. They lose in the end. So by that logic every villain character around should always lose threads too because PLOT says so. Screw abilities and logic, no? We are going by Medaka Box's rules and applying them for EVERY verse out there as the rules character go by whenever we say Medaka wins because plot/main character.
It makes no sense.
By the way, you know who else Ajimu says would qualify for this supposed main character power you have been accepting here? The one who never loses?
All of these Guys.
So are we taking Goku and Yusuke Urameshi having passive plot manipulation and always winning even in threads because he's the main character of his series and because of that wins in Dragon Ball so he should win in threads too when?
The Flask Plan Ajimu was developing had Iihiko Shishime as that kind of absolute being in mind too. Again, the reason for her comparisons with Manga terms like Main Character over and over is extensively revealed to have been caused by her disease. It's her disorder. Even the Flask Plan existing was influenced by that, too .
My Revision is, pure and simple:
Remove The Hero from Medaka. It makes absolutely, no sense. And that's coming from someone who loves this series.
