Slight upgrade to GoD tier characters

[Zamasu_Chan]

I know what you're thinking. "Another Dragon Ball revision? Lemme guess, multiversal Goku?" No it's actually not. I believe the GoD tier characters should be at least low 2-C, likely 2-C, and here's why. Beerus thought very little of Zamasu, knowing that both timelines were in danger, compared to Jiren. You have a God of Destruction knowing that Zamasu is coming but thinks "whatever" while he senses suppressed Jiren's energy and thinks to himself, "We're ******". That's my reasoning.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Beerus was talking about Low 2-C Zamasu, not full on 2-C Zamasu

Disagree.

 

[Akreious]

Beerus was talking about Low 2-C Zamasu, not full on 2-C Zamasu
Disagree.

You just completely ignored what the OP was trying to say. Good job.

Beerus sensed Zamasu, he knew what Zamasu was becoming (Infecting different timelines), yet was still only mildly annoyed at the prospect. If IZ, who Beerus knows is infecting into their timeline as well as the future timeline, only made him go "Oh come on" while Jiren made him shit himself, what does that say about Beerus?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

@Professor wouldn't make sense for Beerus to go from annoyed to suddenly super scared of Zamasu.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

This should also raise attention

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

No, I didn't ignore it. Beerus was explicity saying he was annoyed as Zamasu while he was becoming the timelines. As in, in the middle of the process. It's speculation to say Beerus would say the same thing about Zamasu when he eventually reaches 2-C at the end of it.

Plus, im pretty sure someone gave plenty explanations to why canon 2-C anyone in DB sans Zeno is wrong before in earlier threads.

 

[AstralKing7]

woah first isnt 2C multiversal or multiversal+ lol??? Low 2C for DB characters is multi universal as 2 universes or 3, but we still call it multiversal tho. Anyway thats a huge huge huge jump from being able to destroy around a couple universes to 1000s on to infinite

 

[Rikimarox2]

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[Matthew_Schroeder]

Upgrading Beerus to 2-C because he "thought little" of a Low 2-C character? That doesn't work. We don't jump tiers like that at Tier 2, specially since Zamasu wasn't portrayed as so astronomically below Beerus.

 

[RKGenki]

woah first isnt 2C multiversal or multiversal+ lol??? Low 2C for DB characters is multi universal as 2 universes or 3, but we still call it multiversal tho. Anyway thats a huge huge huge jump from being able to destroy around a couple universes to 1000s on to infinite

low 2-C (universe level+) is an entire space time continuum, 2-C (low-multiverse level) is from 2 to 1000 universes. Infinite universes is 2-A (multiverse level+)

 

[AstralKing7]

i could have sworn regular multiversal was 1001 universes to infinite

 

[RKGenki]

It is, and that's 2-B

 

[AstralKing7]

why couldnt we have just kept the term multi universal lol it was so much easier to catergorize people

 

[RKGenki]

I think low multiversal is straightforward enough tbh

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

But yeah this won't upgrade Beerus.

 

[BlackeJan]

Hey is the new movie gonna be canon?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It will.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Are you guys ignoring the fact that Beerus knew that both time lines were in danger? And yes I know that the gap between low 2-C and 2-C is unquantifiable. I'm not saying that 2 times low 2-C equals 2-C, I'm saying that the every that was very close to 2-C was sensed by Beerus and that same energy was stated to be inferior to Jiren.

 

[Rikimarox2]

That's still not enough to upgrade them to 2-C.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

That's still not enough to upgrade them to 2-C.

Possibly or likely 2-C is a thing

 

[Akreious]

Beerus was very aware of the fact that Infinite Zamasu was going to become 2-C (2 Timelines), but was still only annoyed.

This ***** up the scaling, but this also works with Goku's statement of "If I had a Sensu bean, I could take on Zamasu right now" which is a Low 2-C statement since IZ at the time was indeed Low 2-C, the same Goku who's a mere tree to Beerus' castle. If Beerus had that unquantifiable gap of Low 2-C to 2-C, it'd make sense that no matter how much stronger Goku got, he wouldn't be capable of fighting Beerus period until he jumped that gap. Just headcanon though. One supported by a lot of evidence....

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Beerus is Low 2-C because he is somewhere around the Zamasu we had and Jiren, but not higher.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Somewhere around? Is this downplay? I understand not being 2-C but Beerus only being slightly above Zamasu. Nope, I don't think so.

 

[Akreious]

Beerus is Low 2-C because he is somewhere around the Zamasu we had and Jiren, but not higher.

So you're really saying that Beerus would go "Mildly annoyed" to "******** his pants" if Zamasu became 2 Timelines.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Also if no one accepts 2-C, which is fine, can we still rate them At Least low 2-C because of how far into it they are.

 

[Akreious]

"Also if no one accepts 2-C, which is fine, can we still rate them At Least low 2-C because of how far into it they are."

We're not gonna do that since the difference between 2-C and Low 2-C is unquantifiable. From this site's rules, if you're Infinite^Infinitely more powerful than a baseline Low 2-C, you still will not be 2-C.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I said at least low 2-C.

 

[BlackeJan]

Beerus was very aware of the fact that Infinite Zamasu was going to become 2-C (2 Timelines), but was still only annoyed.
This ***** up the scaling, but this also works with Goku's statement of "If I had a Sensu bean, I could take on Zamasu right now" which is a Low 2-C statement since IZ at the time was indeed Low 2-C, the same Goku who's a mere tree to Beerus' castle. If Beerus had that unquantifiable gap of Low 2-C to 2-C, it'd make sense that no matter how much stronger Goku got, he wouldn't be capable of fighting Beerus period until he jumped that gap. Just headcanon though. One supported by a lot of evidence....

When did Goku make a statement about that?

 

[Akreious]

At least Low 2-C would imply that they can be a higher tier, which isn't possible.

 

[BlackeJan]

Also i remember in anotehr thread (hopefully i can find it) but all 3-A's had very high AP lvls to the point that they were also in another tier and that was b4 the Tournament of Power started

 

[Akreious]

As from the last AP-Based thread, yes. DB 3-As get ludicrously high later on.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

@Blacke I know in the English dub Goku said "if I had one more senzu bean I could at least try.

 

[BlackeJan]

As from the last AP-Based thread, yes. DB 3-As get ludicrously high later on.

Yeah well shouldnt they already be in Low 2-C anyways?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No, that's not how it works.

 

[BlackeJan]

But they r so close to moving on to the next tier and this is b4 they even gotten to the arc where we made them Low 2-C. Why wouldnt it work?

 

[RKGenki]

You can't reach low 2-C by going really far into 3-A. There's even another tier between the two, and the difference between 3-A and that one (High 3-A) is infinite

 

[BlackeJan]

So....basically even though they r REALLY high in 3-A to the point they can be in a new tier....they wouldnt even be able to get to High 3-A

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No they won't. That's not how it works.

 

[BlackeJan]

Which one is it Matt! starts crying

 

[Akreious]

3-A = Physical Universe

High 3-A = Weak 4D Power or Infinite 3D power

Low 2-C = 1 timeline

2-C = 2 Timelines

2-B = 1001+ Timelines

2-A = Infinite Timelines