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Good point
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Dragon Ball's Main Cannon Timeline number downgrade
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Hellformer
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Will this work?
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I think the chozenshu scan is just the repitin of this scan from daizenshu
So yeah the translation matches somewhat
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Chouzenshuu was literally corrected by Akira Toriyama, and is the best version of the daizenshuu guide, everything in it is canon for manga and anime, not least because it is canon material, which contains all of Akira toriyama's interviews and cosmology materials
Yes, everything in Chouzenshuu to the original work.
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There's also the fact that Timelines contain both RoSaT and main universe both having different flows of time contained within the single Meta-Timeline. Which shows non-linear time aka at least 2 temporal dimensions being contained in the timeline.
There's also the fact that I have heard rumors about plans to revise "Pocket Dimensions with their own flows of times." Our current baseline for a Low 2-C feat is requiring both a 3-A body of space combined with a temporal dimension, but the alleged plan is to remove the former from the criteria; and realm with its own flow of time contains "Infinite snap shots" by default which in turn even means "Infinite snapshots of an Earth sized realm" is still infinite by 3-D standards + 4D. What that basically means is that Vegeta destroying the RoSaT in his base form would be used as another Low 2-C feat if those revisions get applied.
And yeah, I still agree with using Toriyama's works for both versions of U7's baseline size. I think Luffy's points and others were still done very well.
There's also the fact that I have heard rumors about plans to revise "Pocket Dimensions with their own flows of times." Our current baseline for a Low 2-C feat is requiring both a 3-A body of space combined with a temporal dimension, but the alleged plan is to remove the former from the criteria; and realm with its own flow of time contains "Infinite snap shots" by default which in turn even means "Infinite snapshots of an Earth sized realm" is still infinite by 3-D standards + 4D. What that basically means is that Vegeta destroying the RoSaT in his base form would be used as another Low 2-C feat if those revisions get applied.
And yeah, I still agree with using Toriyama's works for both versions of U7's baseline size. I think Luffy's points and others were still done very well.
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I would like to hear your opinions, instead of using toei, we can use canon guides on the size of cosmology, to still continue 2-C according to the proposal of the @DarkDragonMedeus
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Technically speaking, since the purpose of this thread was just to downgrade the multiverse from countless to several timelines, and the discussion of a composite cosmology regardless of a shared multiverse came later, that technically means the original 3 staff never cast a vote on the latter issue, putting us at 1-0 for a composite cosmology regardless of a shared multiverse, with DDM agreeing thus far.
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If it's not too much to ask, I'd like to hear your opinion on the use of canonical guides that have Akira Toriyama's stuff for cosmology purposes and the size of it being 2-C according to DDM
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Btw i messaged @ProfectusInfinity who created the blog go discuss the hypertimeline stuff, so relax, i am not going to touch it for now
Well, i will start to preper the follow up thread to discuss the changes that this thread's change makes
Well, i will start to preper the follow up thread to discuss the changes that this thread's change makes
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That makes sense to me
If that happens then good, will have to wait until it happens tho
Well, Luffy tried a thread earlier to make "composited even without same multiverse" and it didn't work, i know for a fact heaven being universal in size was not accepted before the same multiverse stuff
Regardless, as i said, i am making a new thread to cover the consequences, you guys can discuss it there when it is done
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In fact, I didn't even try it without the shared cosmology, you're lying about me.
I never made a crt about only using guides for cosmology to be 2-C, but DDM we proposed that the Universe remains 2-C through canon guides.
I never made a crt about only using guides for cosmology to be 2-C, but DDM we proposed that the Universe remains 2-C through canon guides.
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You did tried it https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-cosmology-canon.167216/
Could it have been by support at the time, but the arguments were there
Well considering how Heaven being universal in size from the guides was rejected.....mm, can't lie that it has new arguments, just bring them up in the follow up thread, maybe it will work for some aspects of the cosmology at least
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Since the timelines stuff in this thread got accepted, we'd need to remove this section on the verse page correct?
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Will do that in the follow up thread alongside discussing other consequences
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Omega, don't lie, I didn't try without composite cosmology, that was to reaffirm that cosmology is composite, it's kind of strange that a guy your age would make up lies.
The guides on the Universe was not rejected, that's why it's being proposed now by DDM, otherwise he wouldn't have even mentioned it.
The guides on the Universe was not rejected, that's why it's being proposed now by DDM, otherwise he wouldn't have even mentioned it.
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About 5D it should be left, this topic does not contain evidence against it, it just removes 2-B.
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Yeah, using stuff that would make it composited regardless of them being in the same multiverse......that's what i said
The heaven one was rejected, and being Mod doesn't he has memory of steel
Regarldless, we can solve this in the follow up thread, will stop responding for now until i make said follow up
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That’s a good point. The Time Room stuff is the only thing that isn’t present in the manga. If the Chouzenshuu, which takes precedence over the Daizenshuu, doesn’t indicate the Time Room as an anime-original, then there shouldn’t be a problem in that regard.
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Yeah maybe, sorting which things would apply to the manga or not will also be the point of the follow up thread, think i will even include that in the OP for that matter
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Does anybody have that link to the Spanish version of the Chozenshu?
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Why not use the actual Japanese that the DB Wiki has saved in their gallery?
Edit: Nevermind, that was Daizenshuu. I’ll get the Spanish one’s link if it’s in the discussion board.
Edit 2: Got it.
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There is no translation for Chozenshu from English, but rather into Spanish, it's difficult to find all the versions in Japanese, but you can easily find them in Spanish.
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That's only the first one.
Appreciate it, though; I've never seen one of them completely before.
Nullflowerblush
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You have a link to the fourth one on hand, don't'cha?
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I believe this is the fourth one, but you have to download it first.
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Unfortunately not, but you can find them writing in Spanish on YouTube to see them all, there's a good part there when I saw it.
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Consider DB also my childhood series, I will contribute the Japanese Daizenshu series 1->7 and a few other scan books. Happy debating!
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Thanks!
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btw i already created a continuation thread to debate the consequences of this one.......i was dumb with math and lauched before 48 hrs since the creation of this one was passed so i asked it to be closed...........but now that the time is up i am trying to get it open again.....that failed
can either of you open this thread?
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