Slight Aizen Hax Revision

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Nothing much to add here for Aizen but I think, whether if its by prep or not, he should be given Existence Erasure or a similar hax on the latter based off this:



From what Yamamoto was saying during his explanation of Aizen's plan to Toshiro, Orhime, and Rangiku, he heavily implied and even outright stated that if Aizen was to complete the Oken as specifically instructed in the SS's literature, then Karakura own and everyone in it would be erased from existence.

This might not be suited for combat unless prep is given but I still believe Aizen should have it, if acceptable.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Seems ok with prep time, I think

 

[AppleLord]

Yhwach isn't left behind either: http://www.mangahit.com/bleach/683/15 with prep too?

 

[LordAizenSama]

Sounds more like hyperbole for Yhwach.

 

[AppleLord]

Perhaps, but why would a God's power be surpass by an object as the Hogyoku and still get wreck in the end? Does that makes sense? After all he did destroy Ichigo's bankai in all futures and Orehime's rejection alone couldn't fix it. He has fearful feats.

 

[Amlad22]

Yhwach existence erasing without prep time-

http://www.goodmanga.net/bleach/chapter/683/16

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well to stay on topic, for Aizen, didnt he erase someone from existence just by walking past them in Karakura Town?

And I seem to remember when Tatsuki, Keigo and the others encountered Aizen, he said "Hmm. Interesting that despite being so close to me, you continue to hold onto your existence" or something like that

Would that further support him being able to erase things from existence? Or is it just PIS?

 

[LordAizenSama]

That's just conjecture and does not prove Yhwach has existance erasing powers.

 

[AppleLord]

About Aizen, been on topic, didn't Yamamoto mention that he needs the souls of the human 's to make the Oken? Isn't that erasing a soul from existence?

 

[LordAizenSama]

I'd imagine so, it's likely the human body and their souls.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

No that would just be either absorbing or converting them into a key. They would still exist just within the Oken

However, its debatable and very likely that Aizen erasing something from existence via Oken Creation is only done through prep and is useless in a VS match unless specificed

Though, I still wonder about what Aizen did and said. He erased a human just by passing him in Karakura Town. And then he said that statement to Tatsuki and the others when confronting them with Gin. Im not sure if it means anything as it could just be a form of PIS but I still wonder if that implies Aizen can erase from existence those who are weaker than he is.

 

[LordAizenSama]

^mm good point about the Oken there

he did walk past a human soul and erase it.. though this is turning into something bigger. He Probably just disintergrated the soul, not existance erasure

 

[AppleLord]

But the key is this: http://www.mangahit.com/bleach/519/5

Aizen was trying to play God and create life. Erasing their existence in order to bring forth a new existence into the world.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Hmm good point.

But im still on the part where he says that statement to Tatsuki and the others

"Hmm. Despite being so close to me, you can still hang on to your existence"

Aizen, unlike other characters, is an extremely logical person and wouldnt use incorrect terms like that if they weren't accurate.

However, for intents and purporses, lets say that Aizen disintegrating a soul is existence erasure. We would then have to give Ichigo and others stronger than Aizen resistance to it since Aizen was doing that with just pure reiatsu and that might bring a lot of issues

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Or....another possibility

maybe, since the Oken is something that generally exists inside the SS, taking the souls from the human world, converting it into an oken, and then taking the newly formed oken to the SS counts as existence erasure in a way. And this isnt the first time something like this has happened in bleach.

Example- Rukia going back to the SS and the moment she did that, everyone in the human world (except for Ichigo, Chad, Orihime, Uryu and Urahara) forgot who she was. Like she was erased from their memories, their lives, etc. So despite existing in the SS, and not actually "erased", Rukia was still "erased" from everything just in terms of the Real World

Could that be what the Oken thing is refering to?

 

[AppleLord]

Time out, hold up the assumption's buddy. No.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

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