Shūkurō Tsukishima vs Yami Sukehiro

[azontr]

Yami looks like he smells like serious BO and cigarettes so yeah, Tsuki FRA.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Death thrust blitzed Dante iirc, so that should be comparable to bringer light bare minimum.

No,

Iai Slash also blitzed Dante.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

From what I'm getting they're either relative or death thrust can blitz. My only issue is that with bringer it'll just be harder to sense Tsukishima which just helps evade death thrust since Yami has to aim it.

Isn't bringer hard to sense due to its blitzing effect?

 

[Arcker123]

Isn't bringer hard to sense due to its blitzing effect?

It’s not due to speed, it’s just an inherent effect of the ability that sensory abilities are less effective against it. Akin to sonido.

 

[Nierre]

I mean Yami has precog so I don't think that's necessarily an issue

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I forgot about the sensory evasion portion of bringer light, think I’m still in favor of Tsuki closing the gap with bringer light. Especially since death thrust has a charge up.

 

[Arkenis]

I mean Yami has precog so I don't think that's necessarily an issue

His precognition relies on sensing ki

 

[Arcker123]

I mean Yami has precog so I don't think that's necessarily an issue

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To my knowledge (how it looks on profile), his precog is based on his Ki sensing, which would be resisted by bringer light due to its resistance to sensing.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Explain what Sonido means again.

It has something to do with erasing a trail of reiatsu iirc.

 

[Nierre]

His precognition relies on sensing ki

Yeah but his precognition acts before the person can actually act. So before Tsukishima can actually use Bringer Light, Yami will already have his Iai Slash/Death Thrust at his predestined location

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Explain what Sonido means again

FTE technique above another FTE technique

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I forgot about the sensory evasion portion of bringer light, think I’m still in favor of Tsuki closing the gap with bringer light. Especially since death thrust has a charge up.

No charge-ups, it was just cinematic to explain how it's used. Yami just straight up spams it on Dante the next time he used it.

 

[Nierre]

Also wtf is with Julius' precognition link. When I click the link, the imgur pages are akin to a whole chapter nobody reading all that..

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No charge-ups, it was just cinematic to explain how it's used. Yami just straight up spams it on Dante the next time he used it.

Ok

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Also wtf is with Julius' precognition link. When I click the link, the imgur pages are akin to a whole chapter nobody reading all that..

Thought I was the only one

 

[Arcker123]

Yeah but his precognition acts before the person can actually act. So before Tsukishima can actually use Bringer Light, Yami will already have his Iai Slash/Death Thrust at his predestined location

Based on the profile, it seems like he has to use mana zone to do that form of his precog. Tsukishima spams Bringer Light and can activate it with a thought to amp his speed, so this strategy seems unlikely.

 

[LordGinSama]

Zoro outskills

 

[Nierre]

He uses Mana Zone in character, and they have distance between each other so Yami and the strategy should be fine

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Hmm...

All my knowledge on bleach from adult swim is literally I got atm. lol

This not sensing stuff I hope its not the inability to sense reiatsu of someone using Sonido/bringer?

 

[Arcker123]

He uses Mana Zone in character, and they have distance between each other so Yami and the strategy should be fine

I don’t understand how this is a defeater. The point is, Bringer Light is activated just as fast, if not faster then mana zone + ki sensing, and when Bringer Light is active, Tsukishima can resist the sensing and thus precog. I don’t understand what range/distance would have to do with this. The strategy fails because he won’t be able to use that level of precog/ki sensing before Tsukishima uses Bringrr Light to resist it.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I don’t understand how this is a defeater. The point is, Bringer Light is activated just as fast, if not faster then mana zone + ki sensing, and when Bringer Light is active, Tsukishima can resist the sensing and thus precog. I don’t understand what range/distance would have to do with this. The strategy fails because he won’t be able to use that level of precog/ki sensing before Tsukishima uses Bringrr Light to resist it.

Does its resistance to ESP work by blocking reiatsu from being sensed?

 

[Arkenis]

Hmm...

All my knowledge on bleach from adult swim is literally I got atm. lol

This not sensing stuff I hope its not the inability to sense reiatsu of someone using Sonido/bringer?

Pretty sure it is just like Sonido and Shunpo which bypass sensing iirc

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Pretty sure it is just like Sonido and Shunpo which bypass sensing iirc

bypasses the ability to sense reiatsu right?

I asked this three times now, geez.

 

[Deceived3596]

Also to let everyone know Bringer Light doesn't just "hamper" someone's ESP but completely bypasses it just like Sonido.

Will grab the scans for it shortly.

 

[azontr]

Zoro outskills

Zoro >>>> yhwach

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Deku outsmart both

 

[Arcker123]

Garou adapts to everything y’all just said and negs

 

[azontr]

Also to let everyone know Bringer Light doesn't just "hamper" someone's ESP but completely bypasses it just like Sonido.

Also if this is the case then why is it a "Limited" resistance to ESP instead of a full-on resistance with Bringer Light.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Garou adapts to everything y’all just said and negs

Boruto cries and he implodes.

 

[Arcker123]

Also if this is the case then why is it a "Limited" resistance to ESP instead of a full-on resistance with Bringer Light.

He’s a mrk and forgot to properly update the profiles

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Arnold BL doesn’t block anything it just bypasses senses.

 

[azontr]

Is Bringer Light layered? From what I can tell it seems to be above Sonido which also bypasses senses apparently.

 

[Deceived3596]

"Unlike Shunpo, it would disturb the surrounding spiritual pressure to a minimal amount and could be said to be similar to Sonido in that it was covert and allowed one to take an opponent by surprise"

So it isn't an exact 1:1 comparison towards Sonido but it's extremely close in functionality to Sonido, hence why it's limited.

 

[Deceived3596]

Is Bringer Light layered? From what I can tell it seems to be above Sonido which also bypasses senses apparently.

Yes since it can bypass the senses of high-tier shinigami like Byakuya who have layered sensing with his Reikaku.

 

[azontr]

So uh, Bringer Light GG unless Ki Sensing is layered ig?

 

[Nierre]

Bringer Light is activated just as fast, if not faster then mana zone + ki sensing

Faster than Mana Zone yeah, but not ki sensing? Ki Sensing is something Yami has active at all times so there isn't anything Bringer Light will help Tsuki do that Yami will not see before he actually activates the move. Even when it does bypass Yami's ESP, Yami will have already "seen" the future before Tsuki uses BL, and then will proceed to use Mana Skin to Power Null Tsuki before he gets tagged by BOTE. Then go from there to use Mana Zone etc etc

 

[Deceived3596]

Mana Skin to Power Null Tsuki before he gets tagged by BOTE

Wanna prove that mana can be equalized with Fullbrings?

Since Mana Skin doesn't just powernull any ability, regardless of the energy source it comes from, it's something that's specifically only useful against beings who use Mana and that's it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Faster than Mana Zone yeah, but not ki sensing? Ki Sensing is something Yami has active at all times so there isn't anything Bringer Light will help Tsuki do that Yami will not see before he actually activates the move. Even when it does bypass Yami's ESP, Yami will have already "seen" the future before Tsuki uses BL, and then will proceed to use Mana Skin to Power Null Tsuki before he gets tagged by BOTE. Then go from there to use Mana Zone etc etc

That’s cool and all Yami has ki sensing active and the second BL is used Tsuki slips past his sensing

 

[azontr]

Tsukishima goes into Yami's past and inserts the memory of him ******* Yami's mom FRA.

 

[Deceived3596]

Tsukishima goes into Yami's past and inserts the memory of him ******* Yami's mom FRA.

Is this a real vote? its hard to tell sometimes ngl.