Your opinion is noted but I do assure you it very much is. That example I posted above is from Capcom- as in, both entities are by Capcom and feature a significant crossover. There are still a great deal of issues with actually merging those verses.
Calc group only philistines like me do not matter either, BTW.
He was at least trying at the end, as I said in... page 3? Page 2? I don't know. Point is he says SK is skilled, gives him an amusing title, and ***** off
I mean yeh, but your technically still staff, I just didn't bold you in the OP
Welp. There goes the All-Stars plan.
To be clear, since you're ostensibly double-dipping votes (DDM fits simultaneously in "Neutral" and a vote that goes against said neutrality, Planck is listed multiple times), I ought to be in that second number, too. Even if we were very silly and took this at face value, honest-to-Betsy verse-merging shit, it would still be an astronomical outlier for the Shovel Knight verse.
So just appying canonicity but no scaling at all?
I do not agree that they are canon, as agreeing to such violates the fundamentals of our crossover rules. However, even if we were to take them as such, because rules are for sissies, it still would not make any sense.
All Stars lacks both the timeline and scaling (read tier jump) issues, so I'd wait on that at least.
I mean, DDM is neutral with everything but option D cause he said that's where he wanted to be, I'm just counting votes Bambu, this ain't a topic i particularly care about other then bringing it up for people to debate and decide on. I also think 2-C SK would be based but yeah I don't lean particularly to either side on this crap lol
I honestly can't see which part of the crosover rules this is against, could you point to the said part of the rules this is against?
We define a canon crossover as such:
This is not this as it does not happen recurrently, nor does it occur within the actual God of War verse aside from WoG- Shovel Knight has never made an appearance in a God of War game.
These nullify everything you're gunning for, as you can probably guess.
Already done so, it's literally the entire first half of the damn page lol
Then, like I said, wouldja mind counting my vote in both categories in which I would agree?
Wait there's two categories you agree in? I thought you wanted me to put you as Disagree with everything except not canon?
I said that I also generally agree with Lephyr's take, in that even if this were a legitimate canon crossover, as we define that term, then it would not matter: our rules would still state that no scaling could take place and that this is an incredible outlier.
that rules doesn’t seem to state we have to see it happen in both verses. Only that they have to officially take place in both. Cory Barlog purposefully stating its one of the adventures that happened between 3 and 4 during Krato’s journey between myths is enough to cover that.
Done
if you're going to argue canonization for All-Stars I will resort to violence.
We have come prepared.
no. that is not what that means at all.
It does occur within the god of war verse, and wog from an interview is enough evidence for that. You are very heavily asserting the rule that it must be canon to both verses, while completely ignoring the fact that it is stated to be canon to both verses. Cool rule, but it wasn’t broken to begin with.
The story convention that the characters are nerfed for plot is actually VERY DIRECTLY stated to be untrue, as a dev confirmed that Kratos was merged and said that shovel knight was “just that good” to the point where he could match Kratos. Are you starting to see how you sending a big wall of text of the rules doesn’t actually work when you’re failing to prove that these I’m particular actually apply here? And you keep on repeating and repeating the whole outlier bit, now why not go ahead and show off your anti feats from shovel knight if you’re so confident they exist.
It isn't.
This is neither a "landmark case" nor is the rule arbitrary- I do hate to tell you but Cory Balrog did not invent the notion of a "crossover". There are far sturdier cases than "The writer said it was real in an interview disconnected from the actual game"- ye gods, when did we forget Death of the Author?
The points I posted do not presume them to be nerfed, rather that our rules would go against scaling characters from two verses with entirely disjointed statistics and power levels. That's the ******* point lol. Are you starting to see how not reading the things you're arguing against doesn't actually work? Piss off.
On the contrary, if you manage to help 2-C shovel knight pass through then you’re gonna have the best career ever
Hey Bambu... get him.
very excited to do so when someone suggests we scale Metal Gear, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper, et al, to whatever tier Devil May Cry is currently at
Wrong DMC, the other one. The one we do not name.
it's fine they used DmC: Devil May Cry Donte so like 7-A or something but also like 2-C cause GoW
