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It would likely to maybe Signora, but isn't it just 8-C or are we counting her multiple lightning bursts to add up?Does Sara's lightning scale to anyone?
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It would likely to maybe Signora, but isn't it just 8-C or are we counting her multiple lightning bursts to add up?Does Sara's lightning scale to anyone?
For Archon tier.The discussion around AP is mostly concluded, just a question on new feats to scale to
8-BWe're not discussing Archons though. This CRT was focused on low 7-B and 7-B.
Signora would just be unknown due to the scaling I mentioned earlier VIt would likely to maybe Signora, but isn't it just 8-C or are we counting her multiple lightning bursts to add up?
referring to this. They upscale from the low-mid tiers by such a massive degree that I don't think they're just 8C1 seems fine with me
For 2 I'd personally be ok with removing Guhua from the equation entirely, but then that means we don't have any feat to scale literally any mid-high tier to. Liyu Traveler, Jean, Diluc, Childe, Signora, most higher tier enemies and bosses, basically anyone who's stronger than Bennett but weaker than an Archon will suddenly become Unknown AP, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but that's what's going to happen
then can we agree on "At least High 8C, likely 8B, possibly Higher" for basically everyoneWe already have 8-B at the ready for this reason though, especially if the Ruin Serpent calc is approved, so there's no reason to just call them unknown, especially when a massive gap already exists between High 8-C and 8-B though.
ok then, that's fineWhy would it be higher, though? And why are we spraying these ratings to everyone when we basically already agreed to just keep the distinction between low 7-B characters and 7-B when we make this change? We're just overcomplicating the simple change of just low 7-B>High 8-C, 7-B>8-B we can deal with exceptions on another thread.
This isn't really about whether or not we should give this rating to someone, it's just that we already have a proposal that can correct the massively incorrect and misinterpreted feats right now, and we can correct it down the line in a simple fashion. We can deal with the specifics in another thread.
YepAlright, so the goal of this thread is to change these ratings. We can discuss the specifics of scaling afterward to pool our knowledge of the fights we've had so far and where we think these characters scale. Everyone in agreement over the proposals?
I think the only thing that we could handle before these changes is having the Ruin Serpent calc approved, but the Guhua calc should do fine until it is approved given it's already used for 7-B profiles. We're all in agreement over this then?
So what characters would this calc scale to or does it not scale to anyone?
you didn't remove the Razor Stormcloud thing from their profilesAnyway, I'll be applying these changes. We'll need to discuss next the Traveler's ability additions for their long overdue Electro key, and then discuss also replacing Guhua calc with something else.
nw nwI'm currently working on just changing the ratings, I'll be doing another sweep to correct my mistakes
No, it's actually a reference to Childe's Bossfightwait
Traveler's Voice-Over:
About Musou no Hitotachi
Paimon: Musou no Hitotachi is amazing!
Paimon: It can beat any enemy with a single slash!
(Traveler): Uh, but for Childe, it might need three slashes...
Paimon: Y—Yeah!
Paimon: Anyway, if you mastered that technique, Paimon wouldn't have to worry about you for the rest of our journey!
(Traveler): So, where can one learn that technique?
Paimon: Yeah, where can one learn that technique?
(Traveler): Hm
Paimon: Quit looking at Paimon like that! O—Okay, Paimon will keep an eye on you during our adventures...
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does this change things
Huh, I didn't think of it like that but it does make some sense.No, it's actually a reference to Childe's Bossfight
1 slash for Base, 2nd slash for Delusion, 3rd slash for Foul Legacy, it's kind of a 4th Wall joke about game mechanics
What did you think about the statement?Huh, I didn't think of it like that but it does make some sense.
I didn't think much of it outside of how taking at face value doesn't make sense for the scaling. I guess it was like an exaggeration for Childe's combat prowess to me.What did you think about the statement?
If you take it quite literally at face value that just brings up a shit ton of scaling problems and just wouldn't even make sense for Paimon to hype it up like that
Low 7-Bs to High 8-C, 7-Bs to 8-B. Anyone else that scales differently will have to be tackled separatelyWant to ask what other characters tiers we should change like Hu Tao's or Klee's too, since I could probably help with those if get a chance to use my computer.
hehNo, it's actually a reference to Childe's Bossfight
1 slash for Base, 2nd slash for Delusion, 3rd slash for Foul Legacy, it's kind of a 4th Wall joke about game mechanics
First of all yeah they kinda did, since Susbedo turned into the giant whopperflower and Bennet and Amber presumably contributed to that fight directlyI mean they didn't really directly fight him though is kinda why I don't want to scale them to 8-B. Their contributions in the face were mostly dodged and not tanked by Susbedo, and the gap between their tiers is still smallenough where Susbedo can get feasibly hurt by them anyway.
Also, I'd look at the Chinese voicelines first and get the context before drawing any big conclusions given there's a lot that can be lost in translation, as demonstrated by the Guhua description.