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Not saying 2-C/2-B Hao or anything ovoAnyways, what do you guys think of what I brought forth?
I don’t entirely agree with some points in your interpretation of this:Hey so I began rereading the manga again in my spare time and I THINK I have something that may suggest 4-D for Hao / The Shaman King / The Great Spirit.
You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.
Basically (I think Cyber may have already mentioned this a bit here before but ill explain it in more detail), in Shaman King, souls can form worlds called communes that are formed from their memories of how they lived before death, with their being countless communes (supported by Yoh saying at an earlier point in the series that the Great Spirit has countless souls that are infinitely connected) inside of the Great Spirit.
One can do things such as controlling their own fate (Fate Manipulation for Hao btw?) and even travel through time inside these planes of existence. Now onto why this could be an upgrade, since these communes confirm time travel is possible, it would imply they are timelines (since they are directly based off of the real world too), which could bump Hao and the Great Spirit up quite a bit.
As far as the MWI aspect of this goes for my comment, I did only say that its a nod from Joco's master, and not something too too explicit in that regard, but since a soul's memory or beliefs can create worlds based off those memories and beliefs inside the GS, it would in some effect be replicating the MWI.I don’t entirely agree with some points in your interpretation of this:
The other possibilities here aren’t random events of the many worlds interpretation, but other possible beliefs, which in the GS control the world/commune you can go to.
Saying they can choose their own fate doesn’t seem to be literal fate manipulation, but that they can choose which commune they’ll end up, and how that commune develops, and therefore how their life will go forwards.
Id be good with this honestly.The time travel is definitely the big part imo. I could see the scan either meaning that they literally travel through time within the commune or that they can travel to communes set in/emulating different times (such as the Indio commune which is emulating the ancient past, or the commune Hana visits in Flowers that is permanently in WWII). I think this would be good for a possibly 2-B rating (and the countless communes in the GS would make its 3-A rating much higher than baseline)
Okay so the run down is that I may have something better than 3-A for Hao to be rated by instead if it checks out. Here are the details.Can somebody summarise the current relevant arguments and information into a single post, so I can ask for staff help with evaluating it?
There’s this thing from Anna where she claims there’s a 137 hells though I’m certain it’s mentioned everyone gets there own afterlife based off memories and soul. Regardless wouldn’t all these hells and afterlife’s exist also within the great spirit
Well from what the scans themselves gave, here are the details:ehhhhh
is there enough proof each commune is low 2-c?
@Ultima_Reality @Agnaa @Ovy7 @Ionliosite @First_Witch @Elizhaa @KingPin0422Okay so the run down is that I may have something better than 3-A for Hao to be rated by instead if it checks out. Here are the details.
In Shaman King, souls can form worlds called communes that are formed from their beliefs and memories of how they lived before death. These said worlds exist inside of the Great Spirit itself, and there are at least countless amounts of these communes inside of the Great Spirit. The number of worlds being vast is supported by Yoh once saying that the Great Spirit has countless souls that are infinitely connected inside of itself.
These communes are also implied to be their own timelines since:
-They're directly based off of the real world
-Time travel is confirmed possible to perform inside of these worlds
You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.
If this checks out, this would put 2-B as a possibility for Hao, the Great Spirit and whoever would scale.
Yeah SK's manga is continued in sequels and such (thankfully!)Been a while (a really long while), since I've tackled anything about Shaman King. I don't remember those scans in the original manga, so I guess they are from the sequels (which I haven't read), but what it's in there and what Kukui says seems to make sense IMO, so maybe 2-B could be a possibility.
5. A few months ago, I bought a character book on Shaman King and it was a very recent one and it's in FULL Japanese. It's also created by the author. idk if it'll be a lot of info but I wanna get some stuff translated soon. but when that's done, ill let yall know in a different CRT cause I think this one is looong overdue for a close soon lol. This is what it looks like.(Limited or full, I am honestly not to sure on the specifics of this ability anymore) Reactive Power Level- Every shaman has a "Shamanic Power" that is known as Furyoku(Mana in the English version of the manga). One of the biggest traits of Furyoku is that when a Shaman experiences pseudo-death, near-death, or actual death they get a boost in their Furokyu level and a extreme boost when they die. This has been Shown and Proven throughout the series and is the biggest reason Hao was able to obtain a Furyoku level of 1,250,000. (side note-Due to this, it goes without question that EVERY SINGLE Shaman that died and was resurrected after the final battle even if they didn't die to Hao would get a significant higher boost in furyoku level, thus a "Likely Higher" on their AP on their profile for their final key.)
Also, can I get a summary for this please, so I can send them a notification?Which other staff members have responded to this thread previously?
What do the rest of you think about the above post?
Also, can I get a summary for this please, so I can send them a notification?
Okay so the run down is that I may have something better than 3-A for Hao to be rated by instead if it checks out. Here are the details.
In Shaman King, souls can form worlds called communes that are formed from their beliefs and memories of how they lived before death. These said worlds exist inside of the Great Spirit itself, and there are at least countless amounts of these communes inside of the Great Spirit. The number of worlds being vast is supported by Yoh once saying that the Great Spirit has countless souls that are infinitely connected inside of itself.
These communes are also implied to be their own timelines since:
-They're directly based off of the real world
-Time travel is confirmed possible to perform inside of these worlds
You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.
If this checks out, this would put 2-B as a possibility for Hao, the Great Spirit and whoever would scale.
@Duedate8898 @Dino_Ranger_Black @KingTempest @LordGriffin1000 @Damage3245 @Mr._BambuOkay so the run down is that I may have something better than 3-A for Hao to be rated by instead if it checks out. Here are the details.
In Shaman King, souls can form worlds called communes that are formed from their beliefs and memories of how they lived before death. These said worlds exist inside of the Great Spirit itself, and there are at least countless amounts of these communes inside of the Great Spirit. The number of worlds being vast is supported by Yoh once saying that the Great Spirit has countless souls that are infinitely connected inside of itself.
These communes are also implied to be their own timelines since:
-They're directly based off of the real world
-Time travel is confirmed possible to perform inside of these worlds
You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.
If this checks out, this would put 2-B as a possibility for Hao, the Great Spirit and whoever would scale.
Yes. I gave points earlier that should help prove universal size for these worlds:Are the worlds universal in size? While it's taking the memories of each person and creating a world for each, we still need evidence for there size.
Well from what the scans themselves gave, here are the details:
-Time travel is possible inside of the communes and one can go anywhere, implying a commune is a timeline
-The communes are directly based off of the real world since they're formed by the beliefs and memories of the soul (the Indio commune and hell Jaco was in being explicit examples of this)
-These communes demonstrate at least cosmic sizes (the hell commune Jaco and his master were in had outer space and stars depicted inside it, and since the communes are based off the real world too, having a cosmic size should safely indicate the commune can become what the real world is, a universe)
-The communes are directly called a plane of existence too.
Oh yeah, another minor supporting point of the Great Spirits communes replicating the real world (and by real world, I mean the universe and not simply earth of course)
Hao later on explains to Yoh and the others that the Great Spirit doesn't just record the memories of all souls born on Earth, but also records all of history, all knowledge, and even things on a more cosmological scale like planets and beyond.
And as I showed already in the prior scans from the Imgur album, communes are canonically explained to be formed by the memories and beliefs of a soul inside the Great Spirit. Joco's hell commune already depicted itself with stars inside of it (already proving it replicates the real world beyond just earth), so along with this point from Hao, communes being universal structures have strong evidence to support them at this point.
^Thisi think kukui's previous posts help demonstrate the communes are not just planets/small dimensions
It was not my argument that they were. My sole argument is that any statement of dimensions is not indicative of higher (4 or above) dimensions, which seemed to be the argument you were making.i think kukui's previous posts help demonstrate the communes are not just planets/small dimensions