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Shaman King CRT (Part 1)

hao is also able summon an observable cosmos within the great spirit itself, as explained in this post:


This realm is also defined as "being a higher dimension" that hao has full control over

I compiled every appearance of a starry sky after Hao generates his sun:



It mostly disappears when he uses black hole, and is completely gone when he makes the black hole dissipate. If it was real, it may dictate the star he made was full size, which would boost the black hole calc migue79 made.

Given Hao say the solar prominence from his sun is thousands upon thousands of miles long, and that his supernova "can consume galaxies", this may all be believable.

His star is also depicted as this large at one point:
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Hao also notes the supernova is the final stage of his star, and calls it a giant star as it transitions to the black hole stage.
 
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Okay, so 3-A Hao then?
 
Could you also find the raw where he mentions the Earth versus the universe or space depending on the translation where it shows the star in space
 
So is somebody willing to apply what has been accepted here?
 
Maybe "At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C" then? However, without further clarifications regarding if higher dimensions are infinitely superior to lower ones in this verse, it seems unreliable to me.
 
Okay. 3-A seems safest for now though, unless there is additional evidence for Low 2-C.
 
Antvasima said:
Okay. 3-A seems safest for now though, unless there is additional evidence for Low 2-C.
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I personally think we could discuss it, but it could be discussed in a different thread somewhere else since we at least came to 3-A as the conclusion.

Its probably better to apply the agreed 3-A changes and then, if desired, make a new thread to discuss potential upgrades so we can finish this thread up.
 
id like to wait on updating anything till RIZEXX can check the two necessary raws. The supernova one would make all the calcs useless if it means "consume" literally. Would mean the characters tanked a galaxy busting explosion.

can we give him a day or 2 at least
 
well i would also like the argument of hao making a cosmos and the size of his star to be checked and discussed here:


I compiled every appearance of a starry sky after Hao generates his sun:



It mostly disappears when he uses black hole, and is completely gone when he makes the black hole dissipate. If it was real, it may dictate the star he made was full size, which would boost the black hole calc migue79 made.

Given Hao say the solar prominence from his sun is thousands upon thousands of miles long, and that his supernova "can consume galaxies", this may all be believable.

His star is also depicted as this large at one point:
vc6vWZ9.jpg



Hao also notes the supernova is the final stage of his star, and calls it a giant star as it transitions to the black hole stage.
 
Well, there is still the whole "higher dimension and can't be accessed" bit, which could imply something more than 3-A.

5-D Hao when
 
so
do you guys think hao's star was a normal size "giant star", or as small as migue79 pixel scaled the black hole to be
 
Mainly really the visuals in chapter 299

Perspective is really wonky a lot of the time so sometimes it looks like it's only somewhat bigger than hao himself. In other shots it looks ginormous.

He does call it a giant star at one point
 
so apparently shaman king marcos ( a sequel as well) elaborates on the dimensions in the verse. time to read

he has his own story yeah, taking place after the original series
I know the plot involves the Lasso family that he was adopted into
and the real archangels
the X-Laws spirits are tsukumogami, tools that gain a spirit of their own through long use and love
Luchist went into a higher space within the Great Spirit prior to the og series and stole pieces of the actual christian archangels
using those was the reason why the X-Laws tsukumogami took the shape of the angels
Luchist's grandfather uses the real Lucifer as his spirit
also apparently Lucifer created a bunch of avatars of himself to seek out certain truths in the real world. The reason why Sati is working for YVS instead of helping the good guys in Flowers and Super Star is because she found out that her guardian spirit, Dainichi Nyorai, is one of Lucifer's avatars
so that also says something about how relevant and canon Shaman King Marcos is
this is the real Lucifer, the mecha that Luchist uses is just one of the tsukumogami

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Oh my god, you guys are still going?! I thought this was honestly closed awhile ago. I am so sry for the lack of response. College has been kicking my ass for awhile lol. I will read up on everything I missed and ill give my input probably tonight or tomorrow. Thank each and every one of you guys for helping out and even giving input. It means a lot
 
No problem.

Is somebody willing to remind me what we currently need to do here?
 
No problem. Thank you for helping out.
 
Hey so I began rereading the manga again in my spare time and I THINK I have something that may suggest 4-D for Hao / The Shaman King / The Great Spirit.
Cyberblader90 said:
so apparently shaman king marcos ( a sequel as well) elaborates on the dimensions in the verse. time to read
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You can read this mini scan thread I posted on Imgur here.

Basically (I think Cyber may have already mentioned this a bit here before but ill explain it in more detail), in Shaman King, souls can form worlds called communes that are formed from their memories of how they lived before death, with their being countless communes (supported by Yoh saying at an earlier point in the series that the Great Spirit has countless souls that are infinitely connected) inside of the Great Spirit.

One can do things such as controlling their own fate (Fate Manipulation for Hao btw?) and even travel through time inside these planes of existence. Now onto why this could be an upgrade, since these communes confirm time travel is possible, it would imply they are timelines (since they are directly based off of the real world too), which could bump Hao and the Great Spirit up quite a bit.
 
Also, for what its worth, Joco's master when explaining the communes gave a nod to the Many Worlds Interpretation possibly being a thing inside the Great Spirit (when he said souls don't open themselves up to possibilities, or other worlds).
 
Interesting definitely following. Maybe this thread will turn into a nice upgrade 🥶

SK has a databook has anyone looked into it?
 
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