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Only Kishi can't exist in SS, but Reishi can be in WotL. So we see both interact just fine always, since shinigami and hollows can exist in the WotL.
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Senna's Feat
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Did he give any instructions? He hasn't replied on the blog itself.
EDIT: NVM I'm an idiot, he replied on page 3.
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Yes.
If he could state on this if he has one that’d be great too, https://vsbattles.com/threads/sennas-feat.121342/post-4000036.
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No the Blanks use their energy to move and slam and destroy the dimensions, Senna uses all that same energy in her explosion.
To answer your question about Kishi and Reishi, no.
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This calculation has apparently been adjusted according to your instructions. Is it acceptable now?
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Also, Arc7 wonders if you can evaluate this as well:
This calculation has apparently been adjusted according to your instructions. Is it acceptable now?
Memories of Nobody: Dimension's Collide
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Also, Arc7 wonders if you can evaluate this as well:
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so are we waiting for donttalk?
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Everything looks nice to me atm
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Don't have a problem with the universal size, I have a problem with the idea that you can reach Soul Society by climbing into a spaceship and travelling throughout space.
Well, I would have a problem with the size if that is possible, but it's the part of the realm of the dead just being a little left of earth that I doubt right now.
I guess... numbers-wise the calc looks fine now.
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It’s not actually outer space. It’s the Dangai.
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pretty sure he means that since they share the same space and time and whatever you can go with a spaceship because they will be treated like planets in terms of that
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Which, by how you insist it works, essentially ends up being just another term for outer space.
I might only have read Bleach casually, but I have a hard time believing that you can literally just fly into the afterlife without using portals or wormholes or anything of the sort.
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huh?
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You normally can’t. But Mayuri can have portals made to places within Dangai to transport his equipment if need be. So his drone getting there isn’t an issue.
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You right. Mayuri probably sents the drone through the Senkaimon or other portals.
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Well seemingly DT's last issue has been resolved, seeing how it's stated in the manga Mayuri has equipment surveilling the Dangai and whatnot, and we know that certain places in Bleach can be linked through Senkaimon portals, among Mayuri having other technology to aid him. It's easy to explain how his drone got within the Dangai.
The calc checks out according to like 4 CGM and 6 or so staff to validate it from a lore perspective. I don't believe there is anything left to discuss.
The calc checks out according to like 4 CGM and 6 or so staff to validate it from a lore perspective. I don't believe there is anything left to discuss.
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My problem isn't with something getting there. It's not like I doubt the ability of characters to travel between dimensions... but that is my point, they travel between dimensions.
My problem is that these realms don't exist within the same 3-dimensional space. Or in other words that they are separate different pocket dimensions, each with their own space. Even if you forever fly in a straight line from earth you would never end up in Dangai or in the Soul Society, in my opinion.
Normal gravity can't travel in-between separate dimensions (i.e. realms that don't share the same spacetime), meaning this isn't your usual physics gravity. It's interdimensional i.e. 4D gravity.
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They are in the same spacetime
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Dangai is like a wormhole short cut to get to those dimensions. Every soul send to Soul Society is "alive" and Rukia prove this when she momentarily killed her body for 4 seconds and become an undead soul by manipulating the spirit atoms that maker her soul body. Even the Soul King came from outside the Bleachverse to turn the Chaotic World into the present one, so he is kind of an alien...
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Normally, you have to prove they're separate spacetimes and it's assumed they're the same until proven otherwise, however I will do the opposite.
In SS Ichigo is thrown back in time 9 days, WotL experiences that same time rewind of 9 days. If WotL was a separate spacetime from SS, SS's time rewinding 9 days wouldn't have caused WotL's time to rewind 9 days as well.
Additionally, the migration of souls goes from WotL into Dangai into SS, so technically you can just "fly" from one to another.
Aka they're the same spacetime.
In SS Ichigo is thrown back in time 9 days, WotL experiences that same time rewind of 9 days. If WotL was a separate spacetime from SS, SS's time rewinding 9 days wouldn't have caused WotL's time to rewind 9 days as well.
Additionally, the migration of souls goes from WotL into Dangai into SS, so technically you can just "fly" from one to another.
Aka they're the same spacetime.
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I don't think we by default the afterlife and world of the living share the same space in any verse... like, that would mean we usually assume that characters can resurrect by flying from the afterlife back to the living world...
The time travel stuff doesn't mean they are the same spacetime. That just means they share the same dimension of time. You can space-wise be separate without time-wise being separate. You can, for example, have an entire multiverse in which going back 9 days in one universe would lead to also going back in time 9 days in every other universe.
The migration of souls go through dangai, but it's not like you can enter the dangai without supernatural stuff, right? It's more like a wormhole or a portal, than it is a regular road.
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Bleach characters can open portals to travel between afterlife and living world tho
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Well bleach is different. In the beginning all the realms existed as a single stagnant, chaotic place. The soul kings power was used to split them apart, which is where prime soul king's ap comes from. They all exist together in the mega structure that is the garganta concurrently.
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Regardless they are accepted as the same spacetime. And being that this isn't a Bleach cosmology thread it's not relevant.
The dimensions are traveled to and fro by characters all the time. In fact they used to occupy the same physical space. They are separate in the same way Texas is separate from California. But it's not like those states are spatially isolated.
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Yes. You can also travel between different dimensions using portals, though.
Let me add: Yhwach has Interdimensional range. If the realms were all within the same space, then that wouldn't be the case. So it doesn't seem like the profiles currently even assume that.
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How have characters interdimensional range then? That is defined as "Attacks and abilities that can reach beyond the conventional space-time of a single universe"
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Then Yhwach needs that removed. As of the most recent threads involving god tiers and Bleach cosmology, it is accepted that SS and WotL are the same spacetime.
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Something about this for future cases I also want to ask.
When it comes to whole universal structures (as in the structures themselves and not all of the matter and space inside them), would they even have quantifiable gravity?
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why does he have that range? tbh that should have been removed with the last downgrade
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Beats me, though that's been there for years iirc, whereas the God Tier's CRT was this year.
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Lemme dumb down the setting of MoN so we can clear up the confusion.
While the inside of the Dangai is not literally outer space, and the realms aren't planets, you can think of the two realms being pulled together in the Dangai, as two planets being pulled together in outer space. It is as simple as that.
While the inside of the Dangai is not literally outer space, and the realms aren't planets, you can think of the two realms being pulled together in the Dangai, as two planets being pulled together in outer space. It is as simple as that.
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