@Arc7Kuroi
Sorry for holding this up. I was busy with the Tsunade thread and IRL stuff.
So, on the whole, great job. I have nothing bad to say here, everything's pretty good. So count this as my approval for the sandbox.
Still, I'd like to voice a few suggestions of mine if that's okay.
At least
Island level (Capable of fighting against
Base Naruto[1][Statistics Values 1])
At least
Island level (Far stronger than his previous Base Form
[Statistics Values 9])
This isn't really a disagreement, it's more of an inquiry. Are you not planning on using base Naruto's High 6-A feat for scaling? I'm fine with handling it later if that's more convenient for you, just curious is all. Although, I do think implementing it would be pretty simple.
So this isn't actually necessary, but I still think it might have value from an indexing standpoint. Do you think it might be worth adding the fact that Naruto's Kurama Avatar was able to match Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o while holding back to his justification? It doesn't actually change the scaling or the values, but it does showcase that Naruto's slightly stronger than Sasuke at this point in time, which I feel is relevant. But if you think it's superfluous or unnecessary, I understand.
possibly
Small Planet level+ with Six Paths Chibaku Tensei (Considering
Hagoromo gave Naruto half of his own Six Paths Chibaku Tensei seal, Naruto and Sasuke's Six Paths Chibaku Tensei should potentially be half as strong as Hagoromo's
Six Paths Chibaku Tensei[Statistics Values 8])
Personally, I don't fully agree with adding this possibly value to Naruto and Sasuke's SPCT. Just mainly due to the fact that, like, we literally see the SPCT Hagoromo gave them in action, and it has a calc and everything. I also don't believe that Ghost Hagoromo is necessarily as strong as prime Hagoromo for reasons I already talked to you about before in private, but that's besides the point. I think if we want to argue that "narratively it should be the same thing as the original SPCT, except maybe half as strong", then I feel like we should just give it a full on
Low 5-B rating. I just don't agree with us adding the feat's objective level of power in the form of a calc derived from the actual feat in action, and then saying "but, oh, maybe it's actually stronger".
Like, idk man, it seems weird to me personally, but if everyone's okay with it...........I guess I can live with it. It doesn't matter much in the end.
So, I have a suggestion for when you (or anyone else) eventually apply this revision. I think given how beefy Naruto and Sasuke's justifications are, and rightfully so of course, they should be separated via tabbers like we already do for
Nard's profile. This will just make things way more manageable and streamlined, as the profiles would look ridiculously cluttered otherwise.
even higher with Six Path's Susano'o (Would be at least as strong as his teen Six Paths Susano'o
[Statistics Values 9]),
Moon level+ with Indra's Arrow and Majestic Attire Susano'o (His Indra's Arrow would be at least as strong as his teen self
You already know how I feel about this. I just don't think Post-Shippuden Sasuke should have the Bijuu Susano'o included in his justification.
To me, personally, it just feels like a useless addition as it's a move that Sasuke simply would never be able to pull off, at least not in character. He'd have to go capture the Bijuu, place them in CTs, and then siphon their chakra. It's something he could do, but it's just never going to happen. Like, it's not just an out of character move that can technically be performed, such as Naruto's Asura Avatar or Boil Release for example. It's more of a move that simply can't be pulled out of the bag without extensive and out-of-character prep time.
Also in Boruto, Naruto and Sasuke's individual full power is low-key acknowledged to be the PS and KM, so make of that what you will.
This is another thing that I can live with if I'm outvoted, but I just don't agree with it, perosnally. Feels like pointless fluff to an already super beefy profile.
Dura:
Moon level (Capable of withstanding the force of his own strikes
[Statistics Values 3])
So Madara's honestly, fine as is. But I think his justifications could maybe be fleshed out a bit? Again, nothing that'd change the values, but just stuff that'd flesh out the scaling between people. For example, I think it can be added that he survived a Lava Rasenshuriken while still recovering from his injuries in his first key. He also did survive getting hit with Gear 5
haha get it? Sekizo and being sent through his TSO shield IIRC, but he was hurt by it ofc. He also took a Rasengan/Chidori combo from NaruSasu, and stopped Nard's TSO rod with his Limbo. Pretty much all of these attacks hurt Madara to varying degrees, but I feel like they're good for showcasing how tanky he actually is, as well as how these characters relate to each other and to some of their Ninjutsu, scaling wise.
SS: Moon level (Comparable to his Attack Potency)
Maybe you could add that
his Limbo Clone made SPSM Naruto bleed.
Oh, and, this is unrelated to his SS, but how do you feel about him getting a "higher with Light Fang"? LF sliced right through Naruto's TSO, which could somewhat bruise Madara physically, and previously withstood his lightning jutsu. It was also
implicitly implied that it would've
sliced through Naruto had it hit him.
Idk, it just gives me "special attack" vibes is all lol.
I'm a bit confused by this bit here. What exactly do you mean by saying "with Infinite Tsukuyomi"? Is this supposed to signify that all of her AP-related moves are at this level when she's empowered by IT chakra? Because, honestly, I'm not sure I agree with that.
I feel like we have no concrete proof that she can match that output with her other Jutsu, because not all Jutsu are the same. Some are just inherently more powerful than others, and naturally take far more chakra than others as a baseline. They have different chakra requirements and power levels.
For instance, this is the main reason we have separate ratings for certain techniques, and don't just generalize everything as "X physically, Y with Ninjutsu". People can have "X physically, Y with BIG BALL, Z with BIGGER BALL", etc.
Because Jutsu greatly vary in output and chakra requirements, so I feel like since this calc quantifies how much she puts into the ETSB specifically, we can't really say with certainty that she can output the same level of power with other Jutsu. Of course, if you have an argument for why this should be the case for Kaguya specifically, I'm more than willing to be swayed on this.
But for now, I believe her AP section should look something like this:
Moon level (
Sasuke around the time of the events from The Last views the idea of someone threatening Kaguya with skepticism, and even as an adult finds her power formidable[1][2], implying that Kaguya's strength is comparable to these older versions of Sasuke
[Statistics Values 1]),
higher with Infinite Tsukuyomi ([Insert Black Zetsu stating that she's exponentially stronger, yadayadayada),
Planet level with Expansive Truth Seeking Ball [Insert calc]
[Statistics Values 2]
As for her durability section, I think it might be cool to also add that she casually stopped Boil Release/Kurama chakra amped Naruto with her bare hands, and matched his attacks with her hair and leg. I think it's useful because it shows direct physical comparability to her Vacuum Fist, at least in terms of durability. Again, nothing that'd change anything [especially since you already added the Super Bijuu RS feat], just something that I feel has its uses and fleshes out her justification a little bit.
That's about it, for now. Like I said, all of it is pretty minor, mostly inconsequential things. I'll refrain from commenting on the New Era stuff until you say that it's ready for evaluation. But, yeah, great work overall.
I just got to page 4
