- 8,086
- 1,540
I know Weekly has told us to wait , but It's been... Two days since then and I have been mentally dying to know the result of this. The following would scale to every SCP that is tiered "1-B" we have on site as of current .
High 1-B Changes.
There has been new evidence , in the same stories that brought up the "Countless Dimensions" high-end, which those who originally helped made SCP-verse 1-B took as being 1-B, as explicitly , heavily implying High 1-B [ http://www.scp-wiki.net/acidverse ] :
" Unfortunately, the world is not dynamic. Everything's already over, I've already read it. All of this? It's just going through the motions. This is just a tiny subset of the world at large. I'd call it the 'real' word, but it's just as real as we are in here. The larger space that we're in… much larger, in fact, uncountably infinite expanses in uncountably infinite dimensions… we fill that space. And yet, here, we're discretised. Collapsed into words and nothing more, even if we're something so much greater.
See, sometimes the infinite can be reduced to something simpler. Look here: ÔäÁ0 and ÔäÁ1 and ÔäÁ2 and so on. Simple, yes, but they can each contain the world. You can glimpse it, if you look hard enough. Just breathe in, breathe out. Think about infinity. Not just countable, but uncountable, and the dimension of it goes up into uncountability too. If you think you've really understood it, you aren't thinking hard enough. Sure, zoom past the pitstops. 5, 23, 3333. They're all beautiful, but so horrendously finite. Fly past it all and keep going and going. Minds have died wishing for a fraction of what I can see. So breathe slowly, and think about it.
Really think about it, and the world seems like nothing.
I hope you've been paying attentio "
The one who made this statement clearly wasn't human. He heavily implied that he perceived the nature of the cosmology, and that he "Flew past it all" . Based on his perception abilities, he likely is the most accurate when it came to this. If this was accepted, they God-Tiers would definitely be extremely, extremely high on the High 1-B scale.
1-A / Plato's Theory of Forms
Not only that, but Wondertainment was stated to have created a object that is suppose to mimick Plato's Theory of Forms, seemingly without effort and views it mere as a "Toy", and he is one of the weakest 1-B's [ http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-609 ]:
- According to the object's documentation (SCP-609-A, as described below), SCP-609 is intended to be a literalistic embodiment of Plato's theory of form. Researchers have conjectured that SCP-609 can be controlled through visualization because SCP-609-1 and the concept of SCP-609-1 are the same object, and that SCP-609-1 cannot be damaged or otherwise mutilated because SCP-609-1 is a manifestation of an immutable metaphysical form.
- SCP-609 was recovered with a yellow box believed to be its packaging. The box is labeled "DR. WONDERTAINMENT'S ONTOLOGICAL 6-BALLÔäó" in large text, although the typography differs in comparison to other products recovered from the same manufacturer. Smaller graphics below the title depict a marble bust of Plato with a speech balloon that says "IT REALLY EXISTS!" and an unidentified grinning woman exclaiming "NOW SUBJECT TO CAUSALITY!" A green pool ball is visible inside through a cellophane window.
- Hey, kids! Have you ever wondered whether your experiences are fully authentic or if only your thoughts are real and the world around you is a web of lies? Now the question is immaterial! With your new ONTOLOGICAL 6-BALLÔäó, you can use your imagination to make the hottest new learning toy that cannot not be! IT FLOATS! Send it into the air with your THOUGHT POWERÔäó! IT FLIES! Did you think it could only float without moving? You should be SARTRE than that! IT CAN GO ANYWHERE! Think real hard of any place fun times can be had. Ontological 6-BallÔäó is probably there already! IT POSSESSES THE HIGHEST AND MOST FUNDAMENTAL KIND OF REALITY! All other objects which share its form are imperfect reflections of its ultimate truth! Did you create it, or did it create you? Don't put DESCARTESÔäó before the horse! If you don't think this is the grooviest toy out there, HUME MUST BE JOKING!
Two other storys imply that Theory of Form's is a part of the verses Cosmology, including one with implied to be the truest form of 682 and 343 :
http://www.scp-wiki.net/cast-o [SCP-343 either gave her the ability to make this, or she had the ability to do it]
- " The yarn was perfect, floating in the air in front of her. The skein unraveled itself, feeding inch after inch, foot after foot into her handiwork. She had seen a skein in a local craft shop and studied it. She had created this one from pure thought, pure imagination; she had vibrated quantum foam and Platonic form and rearranged molecules and humors and atoms into something new, something that had never existed in the universe before. This was what she did. This was what God or nature made her to do, and she would do it. The headache returned for a moment, then passed as she began a new row. "
Mac:My thoughts were over what the true form of a lizard would resemble in the world of Ideas, where all forms are true, and not the world of reality where we are all shadows of a true form.
Mac.: This vision was very hard to view, as my eyes were made for the viewing of mere shadows, and not to view the realm of true forms, where man has never looked before. I decided to view the true form of a lizard, which my thought was on earlier, and which I now wished to see. I searched for the true form of the lizard and I saw it. It was terrible and also majestic, and looked at me and saw that I was seeing it and it pursued me. I ran away down the road but it followed me and attacked me and wounded me.
Thereafter, many men armed with spears and swords came from the house of my uncle Therapedes to rescue me from the lizard and they attacked it with their weapons. The lizard then changed forms in order to protect itself, and it devoured all of the men, then fled from the roadside and into the hills of Olympia.
Soc.: The lizard is of the realm of Ideas, yes?
Sal.: That is what we have concluded, Socrates.
Based on both of these, it seems a "Upgrade" is in order to include both High 1-B and 1-A, in some form or fashion and due to both stories it seems to scale to even the weakest "God-Tier" we have at the moment on the site.
High 1-B Changes.
There has been new evidence , in the same stories that brought up the "Countless Dimensions" high-end, which those who originally helped made SCP-verse 1-B took as being 1-B, as explicitly , heavily implying High 1-B [ http://www.scp-wiki.net/acidverse ] :
" Unfortunately, the world is not dynamic. Everything's already over, I've already read it. All of this? It's just going through the motions. This is just a tiny subset of the world at large. I'd call it the 'real' word, but it's just as real as we are in here. The larger space that we're in… much larger, in fact, uncountably infinite expanses in uncountably infinite dimensions… we fill that space. And yet, here, we're discretised. Collapsed into words and nothing more, even if we're something so much greater.
See, sometimes the infinite can be reduced to something simpler. Look here: ÔäÁ0 and ÔäÁ1 and ÔäÁ2 and so on. Simple, yes, but they can each contain the world. You can glimpse it, if you look hard enough. Just breathe in, breathe out. Think about infinity. Not just countable, but uncountable, and the dimension of it goes up into uncountability too. If you think you've really understood it, you aren't thinking hard enough. Sure, zoom past the pitstops. 5, 23, 3333. They're all beautiful, but so horrendously finite. Fly past it all and keep going and going. Minds have died wishing for a fraction of what I can see. So breathe slowly, and think about it.
Really think about it, and the world seems like nothing.
I hope you've been paying attentio "
The one who made this statement clearly wasn't human. He heavily implied that he perceived the nature of the cosmology, and that he "Flew past it all" . Based on his perception abilities, he likely is the most accurate when it came to this. If this was accepted, they God-Tiers would definitely be extremely, extremely high on the High 1-B scale.
1-A / Plato's Theory of Forms
Not only that, but Wondertainment was stated to have created a object that is suppose to mimick Plato's Theory of Forms, seemingly without effort and views it mere as a "Toy", and he is one of the weakest 1-B's [ http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-609 ]:
- According to the object's documentation (SCP-609-A, as described below), SCP-609 is intended to be a literalistic embodiment of Plato's theory of form. Researchers have conjectured that SCP-609 can be controlled through visualization because SCP-609-1 and the concept of SCP-609-1 are the same object, and that SCP-609-1 cannot be damaged or otherwise mutilated because SCP-609-1 is a manifestation of an immutable metaphysical form.
- SCP-609 was recovered with a yellow box believed to be its packaging. The box is labeled "DR. WONDERTAINMENT'S ONTOLOGICAL 6-BALLÔäó" in large text, although the typography differs in comparison to other products recovered from the same manufacturer. Smaller graphics below the title depict a marble bust of Plato with a speech balloon that says "IT REALLY EXISTS!" and an unidentified grinning woman exclaiming "NOW SUBJECT TO CAUSALITY!" A green pool ball is visible inside through a cellophane window.
- Hey, kids! Have you ever wondered whether your experiences are fully authentic or if only your thoughts are real and the world around you is a web of lies? Now the question is immaterial! With your new ONTOLOGICAL 6-BALLÔäó, you can use your imagination to make the hottest new learning toy that cannot not be! IT FLOATS! Send it into the air with your THOUGHT POWERÔäó! IT FLIES! Did you think it could only float without moving? You should be SARTRE than that! IT CAN GO ANYWHERE! Think real hard of any place fun times can be had. Ontological 6-BallÔäó is probably there already! IT POSSESSES THE HIGHEST AND MOST FUNDAMENTAL KIND OF REALITY! All other objects which share its form are imperfect reflections of its ultimate truth! Did you create it, or did it create you? Don't put DESCARTESÔäó before the horse! If you don't think this is the grooviest toy out there, HUME MUST BE JOKING!
Two other storys imply that Theory of Form's is a part of the verses Cosmology, including one with implied to be the truest form of 682 and 343 :
http://www.scp-wiki.net/cast-o [SCP-343 either gave her the ability to make this, or she had the ability to do it]
- " The yarn was perfect, floating in the air in front of her. The skein unraveled itself, feeding inch after inch, foot after foot into her handiwork. She had seen a skein in a local craft shop and studied it. She had created this one from pure thought, pure imagination; she had vibrated quantum foam and Platonic form and rearranged molecules and humors and atoms into something new, something that had never existed in the universe before. This was what she did. This was what God or nature made her to do, and she would do it. The headache returned for a moment, then passed as she began a new row. "
Mac:My thoughts were over what the true form of a lizard would resemble in the world of Ideas, where all forms are true, and not the world of reality where we are all shadows of a true form.
Mac.: This vision was very hard to view, as my eyes were made for the viewing of mere shadows, and not to view the realm of true forms, where man has never looked before. I decided to view the true form of a lizard, which my thought was on earlier, and which I now wished to see. I searched for the true form of the lizard and I saw it. It was terrible and also majestic, and looked at me and saw that I was seeing it and it pursued me. I ran away down the road but it followed me and attacked me and wounded me.
Thereafter, many men armed with spears and swords came from the house of my uncle Therapedes to rescue me from the lizard and they attacked it with their weapons. The lizard then changed forms in order to protect itself, and it devoured all of the men, then fled from the roadside and into the hills of Olympia.
Soc.: The lizard is of the realm of Ideas, yes?
Sal.: That is what we have concluded, Socrates.
Based on both of these, it seems a "Upgrade" is in order to include both High 1-B and 1-A, in some form or fashion and due to both stories it seems to scale to even the weakest "God-Tier" we have at the moment on the site.
