Scarlet Witch(MCU) Downgrade

[Cropfist]

When did this happen?

 

[Ssr4vegito]

@Risci i'm just pointing out that the aether can likely regenerate from shattered parts but it's only right that Thor should be 5A for shattering it or this proves infinity stones are not comparable at all

 

[Blitzedaken]

she shouldn't even be high 6-b at all. all she did was push back thanos without even making him harm and bleed. that's like saying iron spider is high 6-b because he pushed back Thanos with his kicks. or like nebula q-ship knocking thanos away several meters.

both of her "high-6b" and "5-a" stats must be removed. there is nothing to indicate that the mind stone durability is 5-a". assumptions everywhere. she did not get stronger in infinity war at all.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

pushing something is lifting strenght feat anyways

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Pushing back Thanos who was shielding himself with the Infinity Gauntlet is at least High 6-B, if not 5-A.

She was always getting stronger since Avengers 2.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Pushing back Thanos who was shielding himself with the Infinity Gauntlet is at least High 6-B, if not 5-A.
She was always getting stronger since Avengers 2.

I agree with her High 6-B stat. Thanos struggled to push against her blast. While he exerted more force and did more work in doing so, the fact that she could make him struggle is a strength feat comparable to his own and she is still hitting with a force.

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That said, can we apply the changes?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Also she was the onlh one who could destroy the Mind Stone

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

I don't even think she actually damaged Thanos's barrier so even if the power stone was used it probably shouldn't affect her rating, either way though support the downgrade.

At least High 6-B, likely higher

 

[Qawsedf234]

I think you meant High 6-B

 

[Ssr4vegito]

@Matt Thanos shielded himself woth space stone not with the entire guantlet. Atleast high 6B likely higher is the best

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Bump

 

[Heatforce]

The Russos did a lot of interviews, plus the director commentary from the movie. Can anything be pulled from their statements regarding the infinity stones?

 

[Revan_Laha]

I made the changes

 

[TheFinalOrder]

This can be closed now i assume.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Strange downgrade when?Cause I don't remember him being able to match the power stone.

 

[The_Archdemon]

He blocked a Power Stone blast with a "Mirror Dimension wall" (?).

 

[Schnee_One]

He blocked a Power Stone blast with a "Mirror Dimension wall" (?).

And he blocked a space stone blast.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Isn't Mirror Wall a BFR technice?

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Isn't Mirror Wall a BFR technice?

Apparently, he can summon sections of it to block attacks and slam you with it now as well.

 

[The_Archdemon]

I mean, we don't really know what kind of thing that spell of Strange was. It did look like the Mirror Dimension, but it was clearly some kind of shield.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I don't agree with 5-A Thanos and Strange francly.

That 5-A feat was performed by Celestial,yes the power source is the same but it is still not comparable.Thanos can not use stones on full extent since.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

What does the Russo's say in the commentary about that part?

 

[Schnee_One]

Says who?

Thanos even before he gets the stones is stated to be one of the strongest beings in the universe

 

[Qawsedf234]

The 5-A stuff may be iffy considering the Power Stone is stronger depending on the size of the target .

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Qawsed

So,it just destroys anything it touches?

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Looking at the justification for 5-A strange I'm completely fine with scaling him to the power stone.

The fact that Thanos used both the power stone and the soul stone to break free from Strange's magic energy whips implies that the power stone on it's own wouldn't be enough.

 

[Qawsedf234]

@Dzhindzholia more like the bigger the target/energy aura the larger the reaction. Like if it hits a human sized target it'll be lower than a mountain or planet sized object. And a wave is weaker than a beam.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Than it means that it doesn't have a stable AP,more likely ignores durability.

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Shouldn't Iron Man's durability downgraded? He is listed as 5A with shields and that shield was slightly(i'm not sure) damaged by Cull obsidian and his shields are made from the same tech as his suit also every blast from power stone shouldn't 5A otherwise Drax, Nebula,Star lord(normal) should be 5A as well. Man MCU needs proper power scaling

 

[AKM sama]

If she is only pushing him back without hurting him, isn't she only overpowering his lifting strength?

 

[Qawsedf234]

So downgrade MCU Iron Man's durability to just 6-B?

 

[Ssr4vegito]

High 6B. I don't know about strange tho

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Blasts>>>>>>>Waves

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

If she is only pushing him back without hurting him, isn't she only overpowering his lifting strength?

She was the only one capable of destroying the Stone still

 

[Qawsedf234]

What 5A feat does the mind stone have? To my knowledge it only has a 7-B statement and 7-A scaling

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I was just debunking people who say she should not even be High 6B

 

[Ssr4vegito]

She is definitely high 6B but 5A 8s a no

 

[AKM sama]

I was just pointing out the fault when people compare her AP with Thanos' because she pushed him.

 

[Blitzedaken]

thanos stopped walking when he sees wanda firing energy blast at him. the only reason why she was able to push thanos because he was standing still and thanos only moved forward (effortlessly) when he was pushed back. he doesn't seem to struggle at all.

that's like saying iron spider is high 6-b because he staggered and moved thanos.

i'm skeptical about her tier 6 rating and it does look vague.

 

[Blitzedaken]

also hulkbuster 2.0 durability in mcu hulk profile explanation should be changed. hulkbuster 2.0 is definitely '''not''' more durable than bleeding edge iron man.