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I disagree with this for pretty obvious reasons.
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Scarlet Witch(MCU) Downgrade
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This is literally the same reasons as last time
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If the stone isn't glowing and is not activated...
How are you arguing he's using it?
How are you arguing he's using it?
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The shield is actually irrelevant.
I apologize for derailing.
We can discuss on my message wall if you want to.
I apologize for derailing.
We can discuss on my message wall if you want to.
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Can you please quote the reasons Matt
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Someone answer?ProfessorLord said:
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Assuming all infinity stones are on the same level is headcanon. It's best for Wanda to be at unknown
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This is actually irrelevant. As I said, we can discuss on either of our message walls.ProfessorLord said:
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I do not wish to discuss it in private. This entire point of this thread is to illustrate that Wanda was not fighting against power-stone amped Thanos. You and others are arguing she is? The visuals don't support your claims.
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This is MCU Thanos, he has clearly been nerfed. Maybe there is a bottleneck to how much he can teleport at time?
Either way he's not using powerstone.
Either way he's not using powerstone.
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The Space Stone isn't just teleportation. It can warp space and make force-fields too.
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Even if he wasn't fighting against power-stone amped Thanos won't result in a 5-A downgrade. This is irrelevant. The shield feat is High 6-B, as said on his profile.ProfessorLord said:
And message walls aren't really private, everyone can see and comment.
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Didn't they admit that she was the only one capable of destroying the mind stone?, Meaning it holds a lot of power.
@Spinosaurus75
By the way, cheack out your wall, I left you a message.
@Spinosaurus75
By the way, cheack out your wall, I left you a message.
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She is the only one couse her power signature is nearly similiar to the stone and her power originated from it,also it doesn't prove that mind stone is 5A it indicates Mind stone is high 6B scaling from Wanda
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Nobody has said any reason why mind stone is 5A
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Has it ever been said the stones range in power? The power stone just seems to have the biggest destructive capacity.
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Pretty damn sure that it should be the other way around as far as logic goes, with burden of proof being on people claiming they are. After all, the site itself rates the Chitauri Scepter 7-A due to being powered by the mind stone.
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Wanda should be aleast high 6B, likely far higher or unknown
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I don't see why it goes the other way around.
Unless it's stated one stone is more powerful than the others, why treat them different. The power of the gauntlet allowed Thanos to kill half the universe meaning all the stones contributed.
They just have different effects but it was never stated that one stone held more power then another.
Just my opinion tho.
Unless it's stated one stone is more powerful than the others, why treat them different. The power of the gauntlet allowed Thanos to kill half the universe meaning all the stones contributed.
They just have different effects but it was never stated that one stone held more power then another.
Just my opinion tho.
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Yet people thought I was crazy for bringing this up. And lets not forget, Thor himself destroyed the Reality Stone. The explosion was identical to the Mind Stone exploading.
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The comics explain rather well why they give so much power when put together despite not all of them having the same AP, but ignoring that, I would say that the stone made to manipulate power should have more destructive capacity than one made to manipulate minds
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Loki Cuts Off Thor's Hand (Scene) Thor The Dark World (2013) Movie CLIP HD
Skip to 3:20
Skip to 3:20. When Thor hits the Aether with his Lightning, we clearly see it try to resist, clump back together into a singular form and explode into shards. If it were simply dispersed, the Aether would't have been blown into Shards from it's liquid form.
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5-A base Thor when?
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This. The Power Stone is 5-A for it's output and what it did to that Planet in GoTG. This is basically an Associate Fallacy with no actual proof to support the claim whereas there is actual proof that says otherwise.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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Is there anything to back up that the mind stone us 5A?
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This isn't the comics. Also the Power Stone having the biggest destructive capacity just means it has the biggest AoE. Their are beings who have Attack Potency but not Destructive Capacity.
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Did you bring up Thor destroying the Reality Stone when you brought this up before?.
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Not that I know of. I was simply waiting for someone to provide evidence that the stones aren't comparable to each other in power which no one did until TheFinalOder showed up.
I'm fine with a downgrade now.
This isn't the comics. Also the Power Stone having the biggest destructive capacity just means it has the biggest AoE. Their are beings who have Attack Potency but not Destructive Capacity.
@TheFinalOrder
Did you bring up Thor destroying the Reality Stone when you brought this up before?.
@Ssr4vegito
Not that I know of. I was simply waiting for someone to provide evidence that the stones aren't comparable to each other in power which no one did until TheFinalOder showed up.
I'm fine with a downgrade now.
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Yes I did. It was never properly addressed iirc.
Yes I did. It was never properly addressed iirc.
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Well then we just gotta wait for Matthew and Spino to see this.
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Yes, wich is why I said "besides that".
But the point still stands, the power stone having the same amount of energy as the mind stone seems rather cheap, as one deosn't have anything to do with AP, aoe or not, while the other does. And still, burden of proof is a thing.
But the point still stands, the power stone having the same amount of energy as the mind stone seems rather cheap, as one deosn't have anything to do with AP, aoe or not, while the other does. And still, burden of proof is a thing.
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Bump
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I thought Thor didn't really destroy it?
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He did...it simply reformed itself. Likely sn aspect of it's power being able to rewrite reality and all.Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
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The movie was a blur in my memory. Better to wait for Matthew
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Here's the guidebook on the Aether and here's the movie scene
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So according to the guidebook and what happened on screen Thor broke the Aether and it reformed once Malekith assembled all the pieces.
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Malekith also said that the aether cannot be destroyed
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There is a difference between breaking and destroyingSsr4vegito said:
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Even still, Thor Shattered an infinity Stone, proven on screen and stated in the DB whereas Wanda did so, with High Difficulty. Not to say the Reality Stone = Mind Stone, but it does prove Beyond a doubt you don't have to be a Tier 5 to destroy a Infinity Stone. Thor was Tier 7 at the time, iirc.
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