SAO vs MHA Eugeo vs Todoroki

[Ionliosite]

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[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I feel it's worth pointing out that Todoroki didn't need to release the full power of his flames to make Tetsutetsu red hot and considering Tetsu specifically mentions a hearth which can reach up to 1000 degrees Fahrenheit Todoroki's Wall of Flames (which aren't his full power I don't know why his profile lists wall of flames as his full power) Todoroki can normally generate flames over 1000 degrees so at least his basic fire would be 1200 degrees and his full power would be around 2500 degrees Fahrenheit

 

[Ionliosite]

Hmm, has Todoroki ever showed to be capable of using his fire while frozen?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Hmm, has Todoroki ever showed to be capable of using his fire while frozen?

If you mean while covered in ice then yes he's done so before we've never seen him encased in like a block of ice before however I see no reason why he couldn't

 

[Ionliosite]

I mean, if he hasn't do it before, we have no reason why he can either.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I mean, if he hasn't do it before, we have no reason why he can either.

I don't understand why he wouldn't be able to heat up while frozen

 

[Ionliosite]

Because Todoroki haven't shown the ability to think while frozen, so maybe he can't.

 

[Schnee_One]

Ohhhhhhh

I like this thread

 

[Nico-v11]

Thanks

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Why would freezing someone with cold resistance suddenly make them unable to think and that's assuming he gets frozen since he can heat up with his fire

 

[Ionliosite]

I will take another stance, if Eugeo freezes Todoroki, he will get life sapped and incaped. Eugeo's ice has already gone through Deusolbert's Enhance Armament which can melt his sorroundings.

 

[Ionliosite]

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[HyperNepsy]

I like this thread. Following

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

What was the surrounding area made from when it melted

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I will take another stance, if Eugeo freezes Todoroki, he will get life sapped and incaped. Eugeo's ice has already gone through Deusolbert's Enhance Armament which can melt his sorroundings.

Mind telling me what episode Deusolbert melted his surroundings and also what those surroundings were made of

 

[Ionliosite]

It was made of marble of the highest grade, and it happened on Volume 12 "Alicization Rising". Here's the clip of Eugeo freezing the fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ4O2-kL1M4

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

The marble doesn't seem to be melting

 

[Ionliosite]

The marble melted on a previous scene.

With a faint 'sha', the ray of light surged out again. If it wasn't for Kirito springing to the left immediately before that, the light would have likely gone through his right leg. The light ray that precariously missed stabbed into the marble floor and once again caused a small explosion. When the light faded, a bright-red hole remained melted into the surface there. "No... way...!" Eugeo did not notice the jarring, hoarse voice that escaped from his own mouth for a while. The material used in building the cathedral was marble of the highest grade, like the «immortal walls» that divided Central Centoria as a cross, judging from its pure white hue and glassy glaze. It wasn't something that could be melted despite how hot a flame you used.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

How much heat is required for that?

 

[Ionliosite]

Not sure, but I think melting a kind of rock will need more heat than metal.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

All I've found is it takes 2400 degrees Fahrenheit as the high end to melt stone but 2500 to melt steel

 

[Ionliosite]

https://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html

Steel melts at 1370┬░ C

https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1rr5lu/at_what_temperature_do_stones_melt/

Most stone will melt at around 1500 degrees Celsius

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

https://www.learner.org/interactives/rockcycle/change2.html

2,400 degrees Fahrenheit

Also does Eugeo need to get close to freeze

 

[Ionliosite]

I don't even know how Fahrenheit works, but going by your article, both are pretty even.

His Release Recollection still saps Todoroki's life tho, and since this Integrity Knight, he'll use that after a couple of attacks.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Eugeo still needs to get close to freeze right? And his profile doesn't include resistance to freezing

 

[Ionliosite]

Eugeo can most definitely break out of the ice with incarnation and his ice is also superior to Deusolbert's Conflagrant flame bow's heat which can melt the nearby area surrounding it.

I'm pretty sure Eugeo can get out of Todoroki's ice thanks to Incarnation, which is Reality Warping.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

So Eugeo can reality warp? Isn't this a stomp then? Todoroki can't do anything to Eugeo then

 

[Ionliosite]

Incarnation is very low scale RW, and it mostly just affects the user.

Incarnation: A secret skill passed down by Integrity Knights since ancient times, and one of the most important concepts in the Sword Art Online franchise. Incarnation refers to the ability to change the state of the world through pure willpower and imagination. This mainly includes creation, alteration, and destruction. It is the power which Sacred Arts derive from. Its effects are versatile, as the power has been used to wield invisible blades, create swords from the user's blood, transmute objects, increase the chances of an event happening, and much more. However, the power of an Incarnation ability can be matched by another Incarnation ability, and the use of Incarnation is mentally exhausting, requiring a lot of concentration and energy to perform. If the user is in a state where their will is not strong enough, they become unable to use Incarnation. There are a limited amount of people who can use Incarnation to its full potential, and much practice and experience is needed to be able to use it.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Ok so it isn't a stomp however you still haven't answered my question can Eugeo freeze from a distance or does he have to get close

 

[Ionliosite]

I mean, SBA says:

Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. For example, if one character has a range of 10 meter and the other has a range of 20 meter they start 20 meter apart. However if the range of one character is 10 meter and the range of the other is 5 kilometer, they start only 4 kilometer apart. If extreme advantages are generated via this distance to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread.

So, they should be at like tens of meters since that is their range.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

You still haven't answered the question can Eugeo freeze people from a distance or does he have to get close and hit them with his sword?

 

[Ionliosite]

He can do it from a distance if it is Integrity Knight.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Ok so he and Todoroki play the ranged game until one of them tries to get close in which case either of them could freeze

 

[Ionliosite]

Yeah, basically. Incon maybe?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Seems so it honestly depends on who tries to get close first

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Todoroki isn't very likely to go into close range considering he's most effective at mid to long range.

 

[Ionliosite]

And that's an adventage for Eugeo, since he has Kirito's Aincrad Style. Also, he has experience against people with ranged attacks, like Fanatio.

 

[Ionliosite]

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[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

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[Ionliosite]

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