You would need to revise the wiki standard on hax to disagree with me on this point.
Papyrus' Blue Mode has about same affect against the Peak Human Frisk and the Class 10 Undyne, so I dunno about this
Literally nowhere is anything even close to this listed on any page on the entire website.
It goes both ways. If the non-physical movement of the soul has a physical effect on the body, then the physical effect of any movement has a non-physical effect on the soul's movement. Which counters the non-physical TK of the soul.
You are necessarily claiming that there needs to be a superiority though. If they're on the same level, then there is no reason to assume one overrides the other just because they act in different ways.
Scans?
Yeah that's my point. So affecting the soul could counter an infinite force being applied.
First sentence of Hax page says what I'm trying to convey to you.
I am agreeing with you. But moving the soul would just make the body move alongside it. You can think of it as the body blindly following where the soul goes.
What superiority are you talking about?
I misremembered, it was Papyrus being familiar with Undyne's Green Mode, rather than the opposite, sorry about that
It's absolutely not the same. If the soul can move the body then the body can move the soul. To say any act of moving the soul would move the body without it being able to counter it with an equal or greater force would mean a superiority of the soul.
But it absolutely does in this case. You are moving something. You are applying something to make it move. Let alone now that the body also moves which directly means you are applying a force.
Yeah you are not interacting with the body. You are still moving it which would mean the body would be able to move against it.
No it literally isn't, in UT there is an explicit two-way bond between body movement and soul movement. There is no such thing for durability, as far as I'm aware, and if there is then that should be treated the way I'm arguing too.
It doesn’t because the soul and body are different and are shown to be different and separate in multiple different instances
I thought the staff were the ones with administrator tags?
The staffs with votes pertaining to crts are thread moderators, administrators, super administrators and bureocrats. So this thread needs at least one more disagreement or 2 agreements. The optimal conclusion would be with 3 votes though.
Ok, Thanks for clarifying me
It's kinda puzzling until you see enough crt to remember it.
I see XD
its rhetorical, because this shouldnt be that hard to answer.
we treat all other soul manipulation attacks as ignoring physical stats. why is this case any different ( unless if you're trying to contest sans having soul manip, thats another case entirely)
Because it moves the body. So it quite literally affects it. So the body can also push. Like there isn't an issue with moving the soul or gaining a resistance to it due to stats. The problem is moving the body which doesn't follow automatically.
Because they usually ignore durability specifically, it gets more controversial if you say Sans can ignore Lifting Strength as a whole
I mean sans likely yanks the soul right out of the body and the body just follows the souls movement theres not much the person can do to fend off a soul attack like that
if anything thats just soul + physical damage, doesnt deny one or the other
thats because in most cases durability is the resistance factor getting ignored, in this case its ls, same concept, different stat.
