If he yanks the soul out of the body then he doesn't move the body and also soul rips. If the soul remains in the body and he moves it and then the body follows then as long as the person isn't idiotic he is going to move in the opposite direction. And you have nothing to prove Sans will ignore the resistance.
im pretty sure in most fiction the soul is inside the body, this isnt an antifeat, if the soul is getting affected at all it is still soul manipulation
Never mentioned that it isn't and that Sans can move it. The problem is with proving or assuming that moves the body irrelevant of ls. I disagree with that.
what counterpoints exactly?
could just be a unqie mechanic of how souls work in undertale.
souls in undertale are every part of one's existence, look up the soul page in the ut wiki, it'll have the scan i tried to send
They are the deepest part of existence which is how souls are commonly referred as. That doesn't mean that moving the soul woul triumph moving the body.
souls are described as the culmination of one's being, so it definitely would.
It's literally referring to leveling up as Flowey pretty straightforwardly says right after because it allows you to grow stronger in the Undertale universe. In other fictions where it doesn't play as much role it's literally there if it exists at all.
No they want to say that because Sans can move the soul around and thus move the body that this negates the physical strenght of they body so that he can move everyone no matter their power. This however hasn't been shown and is a pretty big conjacture to make instead of just going with the fact that he can move beings scaling to his Tk.
thats literally how soul manipulation works, incredulity isnt a good argument
that literally supports my argument. improving the soul = improving everything else.
That's how it works in Undertale. We don't care about what they do there only what applies to a battle. And Sans has shown nothing to support what you claim.
he moves a heart like object, called the (SOUL). that sounds like soul manipulation to be.
I never claimed he doesn't have that. I never claimed he can't move the soul of someone in whatever way he wants. I'm just saying that even if he does the moment the body moves the other person can also just play tag in the opposite direction and then it's a matter of who is stronger whether it is Sans moving the soul or the person moving his body.
I share similar questions in this regard.
Basically my point, is NLF that Sans can now lift Godzilla similar big asf enemies just because "lol soul".
I dont think they are really arguing "Sans can lift anyone" I think the Op is arguing "Enemy cannot use their LS to stop Sans TK since it targets the soul"
Applying LS is actually exerting said weight actually, given that if you're opposing a force of n-kg, then you'll need a force of n-kg yourself to counter is. It's basic physics.
Nah nah, it would given that UT works as in the body is linked to the SOUL and viceversa.
I mean 3 staff has disagreed shouldn't this be closed?
Not quite
Actually yes, the 48 hrs thing applies only for agreements, not rejections.
Also I believe it's 48 hours since the creation and not the last vote so it's already well beyond that.
For now his pull scales to his TK is what I'm getting?
