Time Traveling wouldn't be useless but Asriel's method of time travel is with SAVE and LOADS. He wouldn't be able to make a SAVE before the match starts on the battlefield because he wasn't there.
Voting for Sally Acorn for pervious reasons I listed before.
Precognition (The Sword of Acorns is capable of showing the future), telling Sally not to let go of it for the next week
You aren't getting it dude, argh, this is getting frustating. He doesn't need to be there to SAVE, he would just SAVE in the location before he went into the fight so he could go back to it if anything happens. I cannot see how you aren't understading this dude
Asriel already has various SAVE files loaded up, from his time as Flowey, so that doesn’t really matter too much, he can always just get back to Central Park.
Sally’s going to need to sleep eventually, and menial tasks mean she has to let it go at some point. In addition, can you even see a Future that doesn’t exist? Thanks to LOADing, the timeline’s literally moving backward, there is no Future at that moment to see because the Timeline’s jumping away from it.
I am speaking normally, I said nothing "agressive" there
Neither Sally or the Sword have Fate Manip on the profile as far as I see. look at the Asriel fights, Flowey Fights or Floweys Story that have been linked here for scans. We provided them, if you didn’t read it that’s your fault.
The Reasoning is towards DaddyBrawl, not you, who kept saying Asriel will kill Sally in her sleep before the match starts.
When the match starts again, not before
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Ok, did not know that till now. That would make this an Incon match
Asriel being Cokcy or not doesn't stop this, espiecally with Precog. Why would the Sword wait for him to stop talking? Why would him talking matter to the Sword?
Precog isn’t passive. The Sword sees the future and acts accordingly, Asriel LOADs back in time and now that Precog’s a load of bull because Asriel does something else. The Timeline moves backwards when he LOADs, so the future The Sword sees never happens.
Correction: Precog is passive for the Sword, not for Sally
Hey now. Undertale is amazing. I just have my own preference.
Is more lowballed more than anything tbf, you can still see around lowballs worth to be on the levels of "Goku not being Universal" and such
Nobody is wanking anything, this is the third time you poison the well and try to gaslight your opponents because you can't refute them
I agree with the rest of your argument, but I have to ask. Where do you get the ‘Only DT Users can see the effects of DT’? I don’t think it’s ever addressed, so I’m curious that it’s being brought up.
Because they're acasual, so they can remember what happened before a LOAD
The fact that absolute noone, not even Alphys who researched about it, ever talk about those yellow stars right outside their houses, ever. Only beings like Flowey ever talk about it
Speed scaling for Sword of Acorn puts its align with Enerjak, who we have put as immeasurable.
"via abusing a technality" how are you not abusing Asriel's SAVE and LOAD by claiming Asriel is allow to set those up before the match starts? He wasn't given Prep time. That would also be abusing powers here. I'm not out to abuse the Sword, but state how Sally and the Sword are treated in canon.
No, because you are claiming me of abusing the Sword's in canon stats that are separate from Sally's.
Techinally DT users have always a SAVE point before the match starts, is literally the base of their character
I am not abusing anything, it's his power and he has already done this in character, time travel is not cheating, any character that can go back in time would use that to their advantage, however just because the SOA is faster than Sally in canon (something not on neither page btw) doesn't mean anything in a match, as with my examples, everything I listed is faster than the user of said equipment, but the equipment isn't faster just because, this is abusing how speed equal works to give a character speed advantage without any use of amps or similar, it just has just because
Wrong, Sally and her equipment would be equal with Asriel, I showed this with several exemples, equipment is not a exception
Again, equipment is not a exception, just look at any Eggman match, his mechs are faster than him in canon, yet nobody has ever argued his mechs would just blitz the opponent because they would only be equal to Eggman
... It's literally in the OP, I voted several replies ago for AsrielStop asking me what my vote is, User. Tell me what your vote is and then I might tell you what my current vote is.
I never stated otherwise, just specifying a thing for Asriel
No, that's a ability, abilities are far, being faster via speed amps is far, but assuming the SOA is faster via assuming it's an exception of the rule, therefore it would just keep it's speed, completely going against the entire concept of speed equal in the first place
I've already addressed this so I'm passing over it
There is no assumption. The Sword's Precog is because it's part of the Source of All, which are the building blocks of the verse, as Sally has stated. Sally is a tiny part of the Source of All, following the story's logic. It's used at faster speeds than Sally can reach. These are not assumptions.
The Concept of Speed Equalization is for Attack Speed and Movement Speed. Example, Reaction Speed is not considered Equalized in Speed Equalization.
Literally not a argument, just going to assume you are conceding since you have not adressed the response
This is in verse shit dude, yes it is faster when speed isn't equal, another example because you keep ignoring them, if Eggman and Metal fought someone in a duo in speed equal Metal would not just be faster than Eggman just because in verse he is, that's not how the entire concept of speed equal works, it's not that hard to understand
Factualy incorrect, there would be so much invalid matches if what you said is true that it wouldn't be funny, speed equal means speed equal, not "only certain speed is equal and characters in verse faster than others would keep that speed just because"
I have and you keep thinking you are debunking me by repeating the same thing, so I'm not going to bother anymore.
You are using false equivalency, since Eggman and Metal Sonic aren't equipments for someone else and are characters.
What do you mean? Reaction speed has always been separate from movement speed, slightly.
I am not, but with you want to be even more expecific example Eggman and his eggmobile, nobody is going to think that the eggmobile would react faster than Eggman
It has, but reaction speed isn't immune to speed equal, otherwise you would see far more arguments relating to a character just dodging another because of speed equal
False equivalency, a computer isn't the same as a sentiet sword, here's another very similar example, Sonic and Caliburn. Would you argue that in a fight that Caliburn would keep his same speed, and so he would make Sonic dodge all attacks and be an exception to the speed equal rule? Of course not, this same for the SOA, another setient sword, I don't know what to say anymore to convince you that the rules don't work the way you think.
Can we move on?
Again, another false equivalency, as the Eggmobile is purely Manual and no A.I. It can only react as fast as Eggman himself. Sally and the Sword has 2 different thinking processing speed, and Sally has relied on that mind when she has used the Sword for guidance.
When you stop using false equivalency examples to "support" you points, yes. Also, your arrogance is showing.
