True it’s pretty hard to say for sure, but with all the mentions of the place lacking any stars, maybe the map is just similar to how Kurumada puts stars in the background of the maps of Sanctuary and it isn’t meant to be literal, or probably just unknown objects
what descriptions are there of atlanatis that indicate its size? if its a continent we should be fine with using "Microcontinent" sizes. Using the smalled Micrcontinent.
I don't know, I thought that maybe there is some description of this continent (Atlantis) in real life, although what you say seems more logical and we could use the minimum size of a continent on this site to try to calculate this feat.
i was thinking microcontinents because their much smaller than continents. so a bit more of a lowball, but safer and more likely to be accepted. for example Madagascar off the coast of Africa is a microcontinent iirc.
Zealandia is 4.9 Mkm², significantly larger than Mauritia, which is 408,000 km² (12 times larger), and that can make us realise what scale we are talking about. Neuendorf holds that a great area is inherent in a continent’s definition, and Cogley had already suggested in 1984 Central America (1.3 Mkm²), Arabia (4.6 Mkm²), and India (4.6 Mkm²) to be considered as new continents.
However, this criterion is not conclusive by itself, as the well-known greatest continents have not only a vast area, but are spatially isolated by geologic or bathymetric features.
Then, microcontinents are nothing more than fragments of the continental crust scattered in the world’s oceans. The clearest examples are Madagascar, East Tasmania Plateau, Jan Mayen, Mauritia, and the Golden Dragon Plateau (Gulden Draak Knoll).
Even so, distinguishing microcontinents from continents can be considered as an arbitrary practice.
Submerged continents: Mauritia and Zealandia - GeographicMind
{:es}Siempre es emocionante dibujar nuevas regiones en el mapamundi. Ahora, Mauritia y Zelandia forman parte de nuestra cartografía.{:}geographicmind.com
So i just got confirmation that how i was interpreting the Universe Guideline page is right.
It looks like the guy even said no for a simple mention of space-time as evidence for an entire universe and the context obviously doesn’t support it either, so we’re back to square one.
Not exactly. Context doesn't mean proving size.
I saw it, and the guy said space-time on its own isn’t accepted evidence for a universe. Maybe ask him if the context of a Hell made of terrestrial bodies with no celestial bodies or anything in that place is a good context for an entire universe, because I’m not seeing how.
As a continent, it’s at least the size of greenland I’m pretty sure, since Australia is almost 4x the size and is the smallest
That's actually just wrong. I checked the Lapetos scan, he literally says Dunamis is the source of the power of the gods and
So, the reference is to the expansion of the universe (the universe where the story takes place) and how the deumanis is a force related to the expansion of it, similar to how the cosmos is a force related to the big bang and the Saints or humans who use this power mimic that force in their bodies, as I said it is basically a distinction of the deumanis as a creating force and the cosmos as a destructive force. No, they only have a space inside a small temple with a single small planet, the planet during that fight is not bigger than a few tens of meters.
Well, this also sounds good, we could use the minimum size for a continent on this site, although what TheUnshakableOne says sounds good and maybe using the size of a microcontinent would make this more easily accepted.
Yo so, aren’t the planets of the Titans populated by life? if that’s the case, I would really doubt them being that small. It’s not uncommon for gigantic spaces to exist within smaller ones within fiction. hyperbolic time chamber, the tardis, Temples in Omega
Speaking of fiction, we can find life in many places, for example the miniature world created by Lisa in the Halloween Special or the locker with alien life in Men in Black 2. Yes, pocket dimensions inside a place, this is like the Virgo Temple or the Pope Temple that thanks to the barriers (the gate of life or the labyrinth of the gods) of those places can extend unlimitedly inside, or the soul of Hades that Pandora carries in a savannah that is called a universe and we can see the space inside it.
You cannot be serious…
Because I'm confused. What do you mean by "life" here in this context?
Someone’s just sad Hades’ best feat is moving a couple planets whilst the Titans actually destroyed planets.
GE actually called it a "Parallel Universe" i'll see if i can find it to double check myself but im almost certain of that.
Well I don't remember that he ever moved the whole dimension, I was talking about when he moved the planet faster than Aiolia's Lightning Bolt in their fight to block it.
it just says "Parallel world" but the kanji for "World" here is unusual because it means like an "afterlife" kind of world.Well I don't remember that he ever moved the whole dimension, I was talking about when he moved the planet faster than Aiolia's Lightning Bolt in their fight to block it.
Sure sounds like it.
The description is nothing more than a reference to the expansion of the universe (the universe where the story takes place) and how the deumanis is related to this force, which all the gods in this story can access, so it can be said that they access some part of the force that expands the universe, the same as living beings or Saints access some part of the force that created the universe, the big bang, which is what is called the cosmos.
The past and the future are different, even if Hades has died in the future, he still exists in the past, that's why it is mentioned that his soul is in Alone's body and his sword still exists during that time (hence Athena's mission to travel to the past and destroy his sword), so this has nothing to do with this world having disappeared in the future with the death of the god.
That last part is being changed soon iirc.
This is curious, because the dimension disappeared completely when Hades died, so all space and time disappears at that moment, and about what we are seeing in the past as stated in the story exist on a different time axis, that is why even the destruction of the universe and the Sanctuary during that time does not seem to immediately affect the future, in the future the Sanctuary is in perfect condition and no planet is being destroyed. Also, if there is a Hades in the past, this means that his power is still holding his realm, so there is no way for him to be destroyed in the past when there is a version of Hades at that time.
Yeah, but even destroying an entire single moment wouldn't really cut it, since on this wiki it cites the entire past, present, future needing to be destroyed to qualify for dimensional/ space-time continuum destruction. The destruction of the universe not affecting the future probably just confirms the space-time distortions are only on the scale of destroying it in that respective moment, instead of the entirety of space-time which would make it just 3-A via some overtime chain reaction (for the record I don't agree with the standards on this forum either, I'd like to see it changed too).
It's very overly strict imo. It's expecting to much from authors
Or it could also confirm that the past, present and future exist on their own time axis, and that destroying it is more complex in this universe, because each point of space and time is basically its own space and time, so affecting its entirety is much more complex, like what we saw in Power Rangers' Shattered Grid, where the Morphin Grid turned each point of space and time into its own space and time after Tommy's death.
It is more likely that Shun traveled to the future at that time, as it happens later with Athena and Shijima, this is because the distortions in space and time affect the dimensional techniques. Aiolos' will appears in the past because Aiolos sent it to that place, even Hyoga mentions that it was Aiolos' soul that sent that message and we also saw how he deflected the arrow that was directed to Hyoga.
I think Asclepius' reference of different time axes was just intended to describe how somehow passes differently, if they were different space-times since then changing the future by changing the past wouldn't really be a thing.
We do not yet know how time travel affects the future, although it apparently seems that both points of space and time coexist simultaneously, because even a day in the past is also happening in the future, and that is why Athena has a limit of three days to save Seiya's life. The manner in which time works in this series is quite strange, since changes in the past do not affect the future immediately, for example the appearance of Shun, Ikki, Shiryu and Hyoga have not caused any change in the future even though they directly intervene in the past, even the distortion in space and time seems to be created only by Saori's presence in the past, because the Pope, Odysseus and Suikyo never tried to kill the Bronze Saints and only wish to kill Saori to stop this, in fact Pope seems to indicate that only the power of a god like Athena (or the other Olympians) can influence the order of the universe.
