Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

[Hasty12345]

Okada changed many descriptions from the original manga and also added new concepts. In this case he changed the description of the Athena Exclamation.

No, Okada cannot change Kurumada's words. He can add to the franchise, but he cannot contradict Kurumada. Whenever there is a contradiction, we default to Kurumada as he is the original author and has more weight in the franchise compared to someone like Okada.

Okada cannot change the description of the Athena Exclamation. His explanation isn't even a contradiction, it's a flowery rephrasing of what is already established in the original manga written by Kurumada. You're intentionally taking an interpretation that suits your own head canon narrative that isn't consistent with any description of the technique in all of Saint Seiya. Your head canon contradicts the original manga where it is established the AE = Big Bang. Okada stated the AE can tear apart the universe - which means it can destroy it as that's the pretense written by Kurumada who is the orignal author. Okada cannot retcon Kurumada.

Athena created a distortion in space and time when she created the path to Olympus. Athena also teleports Seiya and company away from the Underworld at the end of the battle. This is not impressive for the power of the goddess. Shaka also has that power.

This is not relevant to anything I said. The Athena Exclamation does not have spatial manipulation. The Gold Saints broke a hole in Yomotsu Hirasaka which is the boundary between life and death. This is stated in the classic manga. We know the Gold Saints are capable of escaping there due to Deathmask. They did not break a hole in spacetime, the Athena Exclamation cannot do that.

It is just an internal big bang because of the symbolism of the cosmos as a mini-universe. Even Aldebaran easily stops Seiya's attack described as a big bang with one hand, and Aldebaran does not have the power of an Athena Exclamation.

No, there is no hint of symbolism. He created a literal Big Bang as seen in the kanji, no hint of "macrocosmo" was used as the literal kanji "uchuu" was used which is literal universe. It is also elaborated all over the franchise the 7th sense can reach the Big Bang via miracles.

Aldebaran catching it is an outlier for Aldebaran, not the 7th sense where it is established that Saints can create literal Big Bangs with miracles through the 7th sense which Seiya did when he awoken the 7th sense.

A concept introduced in a different way in this manga, where the characters never mentioned that they raised their cosmos to infinity. We also saw how the Gold Cloth of that universe are always in the form of a God Cloth, so they don't have to raise their cosmos to awaken these armors.

No. This is not correct. You clearly do not know what a contradiction is. The original manga establishes God Cloths require an exchange of infinite cosmo. Okada NOT MENTIONING that infinite cosmo is exchanged, is NOT a contradiction. Kurumada wrote in the original manga that infinite cosmos is required to activate a God Cloth, Okada did not say "there is no infinite cosmo" therefore you cannot establish there is a contradiction.

THE ABSENCE OF INFORMATION IS NOT A CONTRADICTION. A contradiction requires a diametrically opposed statement to be given, to conclude there are two inconsolable facts.

Furthermore, the God Cloth Saints do not have enough screen-time to support your claim "they are always in God Cloth". That is head canon. Just because we only see them in God Cloth for an unknown period of time does not support your claim. As with Shun, his cloth only changed back when he took it off.

Aldebaran does not have the power of an Athena Exclamation.

I did not make this claim. Low 2-C is an infinitely large tier regardless, there would still be no contradiction, but let me explain this to you again. The power of the 7th sense is to allow the user to reach Big Bangs via MIRACLES. Miracles are a concept introduced in Kurumada's manga "Saint Seiya". They allow Saints to do the impossible and amp their stats. The 7th sense has the ability to allow a Saint to access the miraculous energy of the primordial Big Bang.

The Athena Exclamation is never described with the power of a big bang in this manga. The Virgo Cloth and Shaka were completely disintegrated by the Athena Exclamation. As I explained, Saga and company were never hit by the full power of the Athena Exclamation, because Shiryu disperses the attack.

If destroying or damaging a Gold Cloth was impressive, even Niobe destroys Taurus' Gold Cloth after killing him, and Suikyo half dead damaged Libra's Gold Cloth and a Dohko (novice) overcame the power of that attack. This does not indicate that these characters have the power of the Athena Exclamation.

The impressive thing about Thanatos' feat is that he destroyed the Gold Cloth and defeated Seiya and company with one attack, and then we saw how Hypnos was able to defeat Shun with God Cloth, so the gods were comparable to the God Saints. Hypnos and Thanatos (as two of the most powerful gods, only surpassed by the Olympians) are much more powerful than Aiolos.

Yes it was, but you're intentionally inventing head canon to arrive at a faulty conclusion. The Athena Exclamation is established in the classic manga written by Kurumada that it is a technique with the power of the Big Bang.

The Virgo cloth was never destroyed, you'd have to prove Shaka can recreate his cloth, an ability he's NEVER shown to do. Among the Gold Saints, only Mu has the ability to repair cloths, this is shown in classic and G.

Yes, I am glad we agree that Okada's scaling is consistent. The incomplete 9th sense does not reach he level of the Gods, that is the realm of the Dunamis. You misunderstandthe meaning of "Aiolos is portrayed as..." a depiction isn't inherently accurate. Aiolos is merely presented as on the level of low tier Gods, I never made the claim he could beat Thanatos or Hypnos, in-fact if you read my quick scale, I literally scaled them above him.

Anyway Alonik if you wish to continue this discussion, PM me. It's cluttering up the thread.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

No, Okada cannot change Kurumada's words. He can add to the franchise, but he cannot contradict Kurumada. Whenever there is a contradiction, we default to Kurumada as he is the original author and has more weight in the franchise compared to someone like Okada.

Okada cannot change the description of the Athena Exclamation. His explanation isn't even a contradiction, it's a flowery rephrasing of what is already established in the original manga written by Kurumada. You're intentionally taking an interpretation that suits your own head canon narrative that isn't consistent with any description of the technique in all of Saint Seiya. Your head canon contradicts the original manga where it is established the AE = Big Bang. Okada stated the AE can tear apart the universe - which means it can destroy it as that's the pretense written by Kurumada who is the orignal author. Okada cannot retcon Kurumada.

This is not relevant to anything I said. The Athena Exclamation does not have spatial manipulation. The Gold Saints broke a hole in Yomotsu Hirasaka which is the boundary between life and death. This is stated in the classic manga. We know the Gold Saints are capable of escaping there due to Deathmask. They did not break a hole in spacetime, the Athena Exclamation cannot do that.

The problem is that Okada introduces new concepts and changes others from the original manga, because Assassin and Requiem are part of the universe created by this author. It is not even uncommon to find inconsistency between Okada's work and Kurumada's work. In this case, Okada changed the original manga description of this technique.

No, the description is completely different and much less impressive, because Okada never describes that this technique has the power of a big bang and only describes that it has the power to create a small crack in time and space. The impressive thing about the Athena Exclamation is the description of this technique in the original manga, but by losing that description it is only an energy sphere or energy beam with an unknown power.

The Athena Exclamation in the original manga destroys the space/battlefield created by Shaka with the Tenbu Horin, and also overcomes the law of that place that prohibits all attack and defense of the opponent.

In short, this technique does not have any description of its power in this manga and it has an unknown power, so it is not a feat from this manga.

No, there is no hint of symbolism. He created a literal Big Bang as seen in the kanji, no hint of "macrocosmo" was used as the literal kanji "uchuu" was used which is literal universe. It is also elaborated all over the franchise the 7th sense can reach the Big Bang via miracles.

Aldebaran catching it is an outlier for Aldebaran, not the 7th sense where it is established that Saints can create literal Big Bangs with miracles through the 7th sense which Seiya did when he awoken the 7th sense.

I did not make this claim. Low 2-C is an infinitely large tier regardless, there would still be no contradiction, but let me explain this to you again. The power of the 7th sense is to allow the user to reach Big Bangs via MIRACLES. Miracles are a concept introduced in Kurumada's manga "Saint Seiya". They allow Saints to do the impossible and amp their stats. The 7th sense has the ability to allow a Saint to access the miraculous energy of the primordial Big Bang.

It's just a symbolism for the way the characters get their special energy in this universe. Seiya has universal feats, but the description of a big bang is not one of these feats. And it is not a outlier, it is just that at that moment they are not describing a Big Bang as the Big Bang that created the universe (as if they are saying it when they describe the power of the Athena Exclamation) and they are only describing an internal explosion within their mini-universe.

No. This is not correct. You clearly do not know what a contradiction is. The original manga establishes God Cloths require an exchange of infinite cosmo. Okada NOT MENTIONING that infinite cosmo is exchanged, is NOT a contradiction. Kurumada wrote in the original manga that infinite cosmos is required to activate a God Cloth, Okada did not say "there is no infinite cosmo" therefore you cannot establish there is a contradiction.

THE ABSENCE OF INFORMATION IS NOT A CONTRADICTION. A contradiction requires a diametrically opposed statement to be given, to conclude there are two inconsolable facts.

Furthermore, the God Cloth Saints do not have enough screen-time to support your claim "they are always in God Cloth". That is head canon. Just because we only see them in God Cloth for an unknown period of time does not support your claim. As with Shun, his cloth only changed back when he took it off.

Okada's work has a million contradictions with Kurumada's work, especially now that it is his own universe and the author began to write various nonsense concepts.

No, we only know that Seiya reached an infinite cosmos at that time, but it is never mentioned what level it takes to awaken a God Cloth, because Seiya could be much stronger than that level. This is similar to the Seventh Sense, not all Saints are comparable in power, even when they awaken that sense. And this explains why Seiya, Camus and Lancelot do not have the true of a God Cloth, or the power of Seiya and company in the Hades Arc.

The Gold Cloth never appeared in a different form than a God Cloth, even when the Saints dressed them for the first time they appear in the form of a God Cloth, we never saw that these armors evolved through the cosmos of their users, because they do not have the level of a God Saint and are only warriors of the level of a Gold Saint wearing higher rank armor. And this explains why Seiya, Camus and Lancelot do not have the true of a God Cloth, or the power of Seiya and company in the Hades Arc.

In short:
Seiya and company with God Cloth >>>>> Infinite >>>>> Seiya and company in their fight with Poseidon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camus, Lancelot and Seiya in Assassin.

Yes it was, but you're intentionally inventing head canon to arrive at a faulty conclusion. The Athena Exclamation is established in the classic manga written by Kurumada that it is a technique with the power of the Big Bang.

The Virgo cloth was never destroyed, you'd have to prove Shaka can recreate his cloth, an ability he's NEVER shown to do. Among the Gold Saints, only Mu has the ability to repair cloths, this is shown in classic and G.

Yes, I am glad we agree that Okada's scaling is consistent. The incomplete 9th sense does not reach he level of the Gods, that is the realm of the Dunamis. You misunderstandthe meaning of "Aiolos is portrayed as..." a depiction isn't inherently accurate. Aiolos is merely presented as on the level of low tier Gods, I never made the claim he could beat Thanatos or Hypnos, in-fact if you read my quick scale, I literally scaled them above him.

Anyway Alonik if you wish to continue this discussion, PM me. It's cluttering up the thread.

Yes, but Okada doesn't describe it that way on his manga.

The Virgo Cloth was completely disintegrated and Shaka's body also by the power of the Athena Exclamation. The Virgo Cloth only appears, because they are in the Underworld, and the souls appear wearing their Cloth, even Shaka's soul appears with his Cloth in Next Dimension (even when the armor was destroyed by Thanatos) and the soul of all the Gold Saints also appears with his Cloth. The Taurus Cloth also appears undamaged when traveling to the Underworld, even when Niobe destroyed this Cloth in the Taurus Temple.

You are mentioning that Camus, Lancelot and Seiya are at the level of Seiya and company at the end of the Hades Arc, when they awakened their God Cloth, even though Aiolos is stronger than Camus and Lancelot, the last one is a Gradiator who was defeated by Shura, who was never able to awaken a God Cloth. That's why I thought you said that Aiolos was stronger than Thanatos and Hypnos, when Camus, Lancelot and Aiolos are much weaker than these gods.

I am not that user.

 

[Hasty12345]

I've addressed all this already, and as I said:

Anyway Alonik if you wish to continue this discussion, PM me. It's cluttering up the thread.

PM me and stop cluttering the thread.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

PM me and stop cluttering the thread.

If you know that I am not that user... right.

 

[Hasty12345]

If you know that I am not that user... right.

mb, thought you changed your name.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

mb, thought you changed your name.

No, I never even agreed with various of the nonsense that user was saying, that he believed that Galaxian Explosion was not even at the level of a galaxy, even though Taizen describes this (and I showed him the scan in Japanese where they described this), or the nonsense that the Gold Saints only fight at the speed of light and the Saints cannot destroy an object at the atomic level. And the nonsense that the description of Shijima and Shaka's fight is only metaphorical, even though this is a description of Shun, who is watching the fight and Kurumada draws the galaxies, planets and stars destroyed in that fight.

 

[Hasty12345]

No, I never even agreed with various of the nonsense that user was saying, that he believed that Galaxian Explosion was not even at the level of a galaxy, even though Taizen describes this (and I showed him the scan in Japanese where they described this), or the nonsense that the Gold Saints only fight at the speed of light and the Saints cannot destroy an object at the atomic level.

my bad for making the mistake, I hadn't seen him around and thought he changed his name.

Won't happen again

 

[StekFence]

hey, so chipping a sword that’s equal to or above Abzu, what rating would that be.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

hey, so chipping a sword that’s equal to or above Abzu, what rating would that be.

Haluto's description of the sword's power is either hyperbole or he is simply comparing that sword to the version of Abzu (the weaker version in Koga's body) that he fought with.

Abzu is one of the most powerful gods in this franchise and Omega, a god more powerful than Athena, even Saturn mentions with surprise that the Saints were able to defeat Abzu. A sword that was destroyed by the Gold Saints is not on the level of a god like Abzu.

Abzu was only defeated by a combination of several cosmos in Koga, who had the cosmos of his five friends (more powerful than the Gold Saints), the cosmos of light and darkness in Koga's body (the cosmos of darkness is Abzu's power and the cosmos of light is Athena's power) and the cosmos of Aria's scepter (all the cosmos Mars stole from planet Earth and all the cosmos of Aria, who became a new Athena).

 

[Hasty12345]

Saints in Omega spammed miracles all the time though, it may not be an ouitlier for the sword, just that the Saint only did it via a miracle.

The series is literally called "Saint Seiya: the power of miracles that's above miracles" as that's virtually what "Omega" is.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I highly doubt Haruto wold gauge the power of Abzu wrong at all. but you do you man

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Finally go tmy hands on Japanese raws of Episode G

 

[Hasty12345]

Also, Hades' hair need resistance to gravity manip as we see him upside down, but his hair is the same as if he were right side up, meaning his hair has anti-gravity properties.

Hades also needs large size type 0 for his massive appendage

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Saints in Omega spammed miracles all the time though, it may not be an ouitlier for the sword, just that the Saint only did it via a miracle.

The series is literally called "Saint Seiya: the power of miracles that's above miracles" as that's virtually what "Omega" is.

Yes, but the sword was destroyed with a power comparable to a pre-Omega (the power of three Gold Saints), not the Omega, which is described as a power comparable to the gods. Only the Omega is comparable to a god and the Super Omega is close in power to a god like Saturn.

 

[Hasty12345]

Yes, but the sword was destroyed with a power comparable to a pre-Omega (the power of three Gold Saints), not the Omega, which is described as a power comparable to the gods. Only the Omega is comparable to a god and the Super Omega is close in power to a god like Saturn.

Just mean 3 Gold Saints in Omega are stronk. Omega doesn't have to follow the scaling of classic, it's like 20-30 years in the future

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Just mean 3 Gold Saints in Omega are stronk. Omega doesn't have to follow the scaling of classic, it's like 20-30 years in the future

It was Shiryu, Kiki, and Fudo, the power of three Gold Saints, the power of a scale big bang (Athena Exclamation description). Shiryu was the weakest of the Legends (even Jabu was more impressive than him) and his power is not impressive for a Gold Saint, Kiki is only an average Gold Saint within his range (even Paradox was breaking through his barrier with a nameless attack), and Fudo is recognized as a powerful Gold Saint in his generation, but nothing impressive compared to Amor, Harbinger (a Taurus is elite, that's why Omega broke the balance of the universe), Ionia and Seiya who are the strongest Gold Saints. The power of these three is not comparable to a god, even in the series it is represented in this way, because they only reached the power of a pre-Omega, not the Omega which is a power comparable to a god.

Also, Hades' hair need resistance to gravity manip as we see him upside down, but his hair is the same as if he were right side up, meaning his hair has anti-gravity properties.

Hades also needs large size type 0 for his massive appendage

Speaking of size, Hades's soul is described as a universe by Ikki. This could indicate size of type 8 for the soul of gods like Hades, Athena and Poseidon.

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Finally go tmy hands on Japanese raws of Episode G

I get the raw from the first two Volumes of the Kurumada Final Edition (but they are not of good quality).

 

[Hasty12345]

It was Shiryu, Kiki, and Fudo, the power of three Gold Saints, the power of a scale big bang (Athena Exclamation description). Shiryu was the weakest of the Legends (even Jabu was more impressive than him) and his power is not impressive for a Gold Saint, Kiki is only an average Gold Saint within his range (even Paradox was breaking through his barrier with a nameless attack), and Fudo is recognized as a powerful Gold Saint in his generation, but nothing impressive compared to Amor, Harbinger (a Taurus is elite, that's why Omega broke the balance of the universe), Ionia and Seiya who are the strongest Gold Saints. The power of these three is not comparable to a god, even in the series it is represented in this way, because they only reached the power of a pre-Omega, not the Omega which is a power comparable to a god.

Speaking of size, Hades's soul is described as a universe by Ikki. This could indicate size of type 8 for the soul of gods like Hades, Athena and Poseidon.

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So are we gonna stipulate child Pandora is physically stronger than Hades' and Aldebarens best lifting feat by a factor of 10^60?

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

So are we gonna stipulate child Pandora is physically stronger than Hades' and Aldebarens best lifting feat by a factor of 10^60?

Hypnos and Thanatos granted Pandora a part of their power so that she could rule the Specters.

Spoiler

 

[Hasty12345]

Hypnos and Thanatos granted Pandora a part of their power so that she could rule the Specters.

Spoiler

Nothing on those panels suggest the twins gave her the ability to hold a literal universe in the palm of her hand. In-fact, it explicitly states she was given the power (metaphorically speaking) as a kind of authority over the specters.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Nothing on those panels suggest the twins gave her the ability to hold a literal universe in the palm of her hand. In-fact, it explicitly states she was given the power (metaphorically speaking) as a kind of authority over the specters.

They granted Pandora great power to rule over the Specters, a power greater than any Specter, so Pandora had the power to torture Radamanthys, the most powerful of the Specters.

 

[Hasty12345]

They granted Pandora great power to rule over the Specters, a power greater than any Specter, so Pandora had the power to torture Radamanthys, the most powerful of the Specters.

Is there anything in the Taizen about this?

 

[StekFence]

Big boi lifting

 

[Hasty12345]

Big boi lifting

Taizen: "THIS B***H PANDORA KINDA STRONG"

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Is there anything in the Taizen about this?

No, this is what is shown in the original manga, where Hypnos and Thanatos mention that they would grant Pandora great power to rule over the Specters, and Pandora has enough power to torture and almost kill Radamanthys (the most powerful of the Specters), even the Specters are afraid of Pandora.

Spoiler

 

[Hasty12345]

No, this is what is shown in the original manga, where Hypnos and Thanatos mention that they would grant Pandora great power to rule over the Specters, and Pandora has enough power to torture and almost kill Radamanthys (the most powerful of the Specters), even the Specters are afraid of Pandora.

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ik its the original manga, I asked if it was further elaborated in the Taizen.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

ik its the original manga, I asked if it was further elaborated in the Taizen.

No. It only mentions the same thing described in the manga. Hypnos and Thanatos granted her the power to rule the 108 Specters.

ハーデスの魂の現世での姉。かつては愛する家族に囲まれに普通の少女だったが、ハーデスの魂の守り番としてタナトスとヒュプノスに選ばれ、百の八冥闘士を統べる力を与えられに。

 

[Hasty12345]

That seems super strange to me, but oh well

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I found the scan everyone wonders what it actually says. I talked to some native Japanese speaking people (Off site. They do not do fictional character royales) about it and some people taking classes to learn Japanese. This was what they all pretty much said about it.

勝てるト思ったのガ間違イ
You were wrong to think you could win.

我は全テヲ破壊スルために生まれし神.
刻と命を切り裂きあらゆるモノを断チ灰塵にせシ者.

I am the god who was born to destroy all of existence. I mercilessly rips apart lives and reduces all that exist to ashes.

れいがい例外なド 存在しなイ
There are no exceptions.

Original scan is here

 

[StekFence]

Interestng

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

I found the scan everyone wonders what it actually says. I talked to some native Japanese speaking people (Off site. They do not do fictional character royales) about it and some people taking classes to learn Japanese. This was what they all pretty much said about it.

勝てるト思ったのガ間違イ
You were wrong to think you could win.

我は全テヲ破壊スルために生まれし神.
刻と命を切り裂きあらゆるモノを断チ灰塵にせシ者.

I am the god who was born to destroy all of existence. I mercilessly rips apart lives and reduces all that exist to ashes.

れいがい例外なド 存在しなイ
There are no exceptions.

Original scan is here

In reality it does not say that he destroys all existence, in reference to destroying the whole world, it only mentions that he is a god who was born to destroy. It is because his power allows him to destroy living beings, even describing that his final technique destroys the opponent to the point of turning him into atoms.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

In reality it does not say that he destroys all existence, in reference to destroying the whole world, it only mentions that he is a god who was born to destroy.

I talked to like 6 people 4 of which are native to japan. They say it "references the meaning of All of existence without saying out right saying the exact phrase "all of existence"" putting a long conversation short.

edit: they also did say context is important but at face value without knowing any other context. What I said above is what they said it means. (i spoke them all separately)

 

[StekFence]

Destroying all of existence without saying all of existence. Huh

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

I talked to like 6 people 4 of which are native to japan. They say it "references the meaning of All of existence without saying all of existence" putting a long conversation short.

edit: they also did say context is important but at face value without knowing any other context. that is what they said (i spoke them all separately)

The person who translates the Next Dimension, Shady (the best translation of this manga, even mentioned by several people who understand the language), did me the favor of translating this, and said that the translation is incorrect and exaggerated. It never mentions that it destroys all of existence, it only says that it destroys everything, in the context that it destroys all that is before it with its power.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Sorry bud but im going to have to disagree. I trust my sources

also the Tivenk and HouseOflibra agreed with them. They've both translated some saint seiay manga into english

Edit: it appears we have a clash of sources. This seems rather sus.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Destroying all of existence without saying all of existence. Huh

Without saying the exact phrase "all of existence" instead they used another way of saying it.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Sorry bud but im going to have to disagree. I trust my sources

also the Tivenk and HouseOflibra agreed with them. They've both translated some saint seiay manga into english

Edit: it appears we have a clash of sources. This seems rather sus.

The translation with the best translator of this franchise says that this is not so.

 

[StekFence]

it appears we have a clash of sources.

So who has the highest cosmo!? This is the essence of battle

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

The translation with the best translator of this franchise says that this is not so.

Anyone can claim to be the best translator.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Without saying the exact phrase "all of existence" instead they used another way of saying it.

The phrase "all of existence" is never mentioned on that page. He only says that it destroys all. In context, it only indicates that it destroys all that is in front of it.

Anyone can claim to be the best translator.

Because Shady is the translator that has the least amount of errors, even after reviewing the original material, as opposed to Episode.G's translation which is characterized by several errors. The Next Dimension in Spanish translated by Shady is the best translation of this franchise.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

The phrase "all of existence" is never mentioned on that page. He only says that it destroys all.

all of my sources told me that what is being referenced from what is being used is another way to say "all of existence" without saying that exact phrase but like a synonym for it

And doesn't other Officially translated sources from companies who pay translators who have degrees in lanuagee also say "All of existence" here as well? Such as the official BR version?

Because Shady is the translator that has the least amount of errors, even after reviewing the original material, as opposed to Episode.G's translation which is characterized by several errors.

Appeal to accomplishment fallacy.

This is all the time i have to talk... busy week and other stuff going on...