Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Is this a 3-A or 2-C feat?.

Tokisada with his Chrono Execution creates a black hole that threatens to drawn all the space and time from the dimension of the end of time.

Spoiler

Tokisada's goal was also to create a new big bang (to destroy the time and space of that dimension), therefore, he would probably first create a big crunch with his Chrono Execution (black hole) and then generate a big bang.

Spoiler

The End of Time is a dimension with stars and galaxies, and it is also a different time-space.

Spoiler

Description of the End of Time by Tokisada.

Galaxies:

Description of the End of Time on the DVD.

現在、過去、未来の全てが重なり合う世界「時間の果て」。 恐竜の骨や様々な時代の建造物が埋まつている。

The quality of the feats of Omega is only proportional to the quality of its soundtrack in the first season.

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The description on the DVD confirms that the gods of Mars (Vulcanus) created a different space or dimension within the Pisces Temple.

Spoiler

蒼摩、龍峰、栄斗を迎え撃つため、マルス四天王が双魚宮内に作り出した異空間。

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Is this a 3-A or 2-C feat?.

Tokisada with his Chrono Execution creates a black hole that threatens to drawn all the space and time from the dimension of the end of time.

Spoiler

Tokisada's goal was also to create a new big bang (to destroy the time and space of that dimension), therefore, he would probably first create a big crunch with his Chrono Execution (black hole) and then generate a big bang.

Spoiler

The End of Time is a dimension with stars and galaxies, and it is also a different time-space.

Spoiler

Description of the End of Time by Tokisada.

Galaxies:

Description of the End of Time on the DVD.

現在、過去、未来の全てが重なり合う世界「時間の果て」。 恐竜の骨や様々な時代の建造物が埋まつている。

The quality of the feats of Omega is only proportional to the quality of its soundtrack in the first season.

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The description on the DVD confirms that the gods of Mars (Vulcanus) created a different space or dimension within the Pisces Temple.

Spoiler

蒼摩、龍峰、栄斗を迎え撃つため、マルス四天王が双魚宮内に作り出した異空間。

The end of time is a bit more complex

i have a question do you have the scans of Eris creating a universe for Shoko? Edit: nvm i found it.

 

[StekFence]

Is this a 3-A or 2-C feat?.

Tokisada with his Chrono Execution creates a black hole that threatens to drawn all the space and time from the dimension of the end of time.

Spoiler

Tokisada's goal was also to create a new big bang (to destroy the time and space of that dimension), therefore, he would probably first create a big crunch with his Chrono Execution (black hole) and then generate a big bang.

Spoiler

The End of Time is a dimension with stars and galaxies, and it is also a different time-space.

Spoiler

Description of the End of Time by Tokisada.

Galaxies:

Description of the End of Time on the DVD.

現在、過去、未来の全てが重なり合う世界「時間の果て」。 恐竜の骨や様々な時代の建造物が埋まつている。

The quality of the feats of Omega is only proportional to the quality of its soundtrack in the first season.

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The description on the DVD confirms that the gods of Mars (Vulcanus) created a different space or dimension within the Pisces Temple.

Spoiler

蒼摩、龍峰、栄斗を迎え撃つため、マルス四天王が双魚宮内に作り出した異空間。

Idk, but wow ryuho has a big sheild

 

[Hasty12345]

@Lancelot_de_Cancer I was thinking of updating Shoko's profile as it appears to be very dated

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Equuleus_Shoko

 

[Hasty12345]

Is this a 3-A or 2-C feat?.

see question above this comment

 

[StekFence]

@Lancelot_de_Cancer I was thinking of updating Shoko's profile as it appears to be very dated

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Equuleus_Shoko

It is. No 7th sense key, powers section is partially empty, and uses a bad photo(imo)

 

[Hasty12345]

It is. No 7th sense key, powers section is partially empty, and uses a bad photo(imo)

Not to mention she has a "god cloth" thingy that could be used in a new key iirc

 

[StekFence]

Not to mention she has a "god cloth" thingy that could be used in a new key iirc

Yeah. And the lunar thingy gives her a psuedo 8th sense, in the sense it allows for travel to elysium

 

[Hasty12345]

Yeah. And the lunar thingy gives her a psuedo 8th sense, in the sense it allows for travel to elysium

she should also probably get a low 2-C possibly 2-C key in the "god cloth", but I'm super behind in Sho hence why I am asking for Lancelot's help

 

[StekFence]

Yeah Im not really caught up in saintia sho myself

 

[StekFence]

@Lancelot_de_Cancer I was thinking of updating Shoko's profile as it appears to be very dated

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Equuleus_Shoko

Tbh, tons of profiles need fixing up.

 

[Hasty12345]

The LC profiles need deleting

 

[StekFence]

The LC profiles need deleting

how do u decide between redoing one or deleting it

 

[Hasty12345]

how do u decide between redoing one or deleting it

when you cbf'd redoing it

 

[StekFence]

Ok so. Seiya killed Thanatos right?

 

[StekFence]

Thanatos has immortality types 1,3,4 and 8. 1 is eternal life. 3 is regen. 4 is via reincarnation/reborn. And 8 is as long as a certain thing exists. So how did seiya kill Thanatos, and yet bypassing type 8 isnt on his profile. or 4. Or 3.

 

[Hasty12345]

Thanatos has immortality types 1,3,4 and 8. 1 is eternal life. 3 is regen. 4 is via reincarnation/reborn. And 8 is as long as a certain thing exists. So how did seiya kill Thanatos, and yet bypassing type 8 isnt on his profile. or 4. Or 3.

make a CRT after the current CRT is finished

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Seiya never perma killed Thanatos.

 

[StekFence]

Well, yes its not stated that he perma died. I suppose you could be correct t

 

[StekFence]

Is hades being around in episode g assassin considered canon here?

 

[Hasty12345]

if by "being around" you mean lingering in the ruins of a collapsing UW as a "ghost" after Athena destroyed his body and soul then sure. and yes, GA is canon

 

[StekFence]

if by "being around" you mean lingering in the ruins of a collapsing UW as a "ghost" after Athena destroyed his body and soul then sure. and yes, GA is canon

Yes. I’m still confused on how he’s a soulless ghost,

 

[Hasty12345]

Yes. I’m still confused on how he’s a soulless ghost,

it's explained when Aiolos kills Zeus in the LW timeline that gods cannot die and even when their bodies and souls are destroyed they fall into some sort of sleep state.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Seiya never perma killed Thanatos.

Thanatos is dead in the main universe and was killed by Seiya with God Cloth, so he was killed by someone using something equivalent to a sacred treasure.

Thanatos has immortality types 1,3,4 and 8. 1 is eternal life. 3 is regen. 4 is via reincarnation/reborn. And 8 is as long as a certain thing exists. So how did seiya kill Thanatos, and yet bypassing type 8 isnt on his profile. or 4. Or 3.

The immortality of the gods has to be updated.

Is hades being around in episode g assassin considered canon here?

All Saint Seiya series are canon, the problem is that they are not the same universe and the story is different between universe.

Assassin is a different timeline or universe, even characters that are dead in the main universe are alive without any explanation in that world (for example, Radamanthys, Shion and Kanon are alive, even though Rada's death is confirmed in the original manga, since the bead on the rosary changed color). In that universe, Athena only destroys the god's body without harming his soul, that's why we saw that Hades' soul still exists.

if by "being around" you mean lingering in the ruins of a collapsing UW as a "ghost" after Athena destroyed his body and soul then sure. and yes, GA is canon

It is never mentioned that Athena destroyed his body and soul in that world. And we only saw that Hades does not have a physical body, therefore, Athena only destroys the god's body. Also, the Underworld still exists in that world, unlike in the original manga where that whole dimension disappeared without a trace. In the main universe, Athena destroys the body and soul of the god with her sacred treasure (which in the main universe are weapons to kill gods, we can even see how the god disappears without leaving any trace), so he disappears forever.

it's explained when Aiolos kills Zeus in the LW timeline that gods cannot die and even when their bodies and souls are destroyed they fall into some sort of sleep state.

Aiolos never destroyed his soul completely (souls in this universe endure a lot of damage and do not disappear, even in the Underworld they are damaged and torn in various ways), he only damaged the god, and the immortality of that version of Zeus is really mediocre, because even the destruction of his avatar prevented the god from returning and he could only come back thanks to the power of the black core that brought Aiolia back.

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It is. No 7th sense key, powers section is partially empty, and uses a bad photo(imo)

I am working on Shoko's profile.

Lancelot de Cancer/Sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

Although I am waiting for the publication of volume 16 (Kuori mentions that the volume will have an expanded and updated ending) to finish this page.

Not to mention she has a "god cloth" thingy that could be used in a new key iirc

It is a Dress, not a God Cloth.

Yeah. And the lunar thingy gives her a psuedo 8th sense, in the sense it allows for travel to elysium

It is never mentioned that Shoko awakened the Eighth Sense.

Shoko could resist the effect of the Superdimension, because she has the divine protection of Artemis' cosmos in the Lunar Hagoromo and the last chapters reveal that she has the blood of Eris. But she cannot enter the world of the dead of Hades.

The first Saint to discover the Eighth Sense and understand its power was Shaka, who revealed this secret to the other Saints and Athena. And probably Asclepius was also capable of awakening this sense, but he never revealed this information to the other Saints and Athena.

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The LC profiles need deleting

Or updated.

I could update those pages, but first I want to work on updating the Saintia Sho pages.

 

[StekFence]

It is never mentioned that Shoko awakened the Eighth Sense.

Shoko could resist the effect of the Superdimension, because she has the divine protection of Artemis' cosmos in the Lunar Hagoromo

That’s what I meant

 

[StekFence]

Was Zeus defeated in episode g assasin?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Was Zeus defeated in episode g assasin?

twice lol

 

[StekFence]

twice lol

By who?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

By who?

Aiolos in the lost world

Seiya again in the "correct" world

Though it should be noted that Zeus says himself that he defeated many different variations of Seiya's in other worlds too.

 

[StekFence]

Aiolos in the lost world

Seiya again in the "correct" world

Though it should be noted that Zeus says himself that he defeated many different variations of Seiya's in other worlds too.

Does this scale?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Does this scale?

in my opinion, it should. others think not

 

[StekFence]

I see

 

[Urshani]

in my opinion, it should. others think not

i will now throw him against SMT 2-As.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

i will now throw him against SMT 2-As.

Who?

 

[Urshani]

Who?

Demi-Fiend. Zeus, Aiolos, and Seiya all get thrown against the Tier 2 meatgrinder.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Demi-Fiend. Zeus, Aiolos, and Seiya all get thrown against the Tier 2 meatgrinder.

Only Zeus is 2-A atm.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Aiolos in the lost world

Seiya again in the "correct" world

Though it should be noted that Zeus says himself that he defeated many different variations of Seiya's in other worlds too.

The other universe's version of Zeus was defeated by Aiolos (Lost World) and Shura. Seiya did not defeat this version of the god.

Only Zeus is 2-A atm.

It will probably even receive a downgrade in the future, because it has no feats of that level. And this is a version of Zeus from another universe with unknown power and his feats are not impressive, even his best feat is only 5-C. Although this version of Zeus was only a god in a human body, which was not in full control of his body, and he is not wearing his armor and sacred treasures, therefore, it is likely that he was weaker than Poseidon at the end of his arc.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

The other universe's version of Zeus was defeated by Aiolos (Lost World) and Shura. Seiya did not defeat this version of the god.

Ah yeah sorry I forgot that.

Yeah it was Shura that defeated Zeus.

 

[Urshani]

Only Zeus is 2-A atm.

when all of them get upgraded (possibly) they're getting yeeted against the half demon

not as a spite match i want to see how they do.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Episode.G Requiem chapter 16

聖闘士星矢EPISODE.Gレクイエム 【コミックス最新6巻発売中!】 | 車田正美/岡田芽武 |試し読み・無料マンガサイトはマンガクロス

聖闘士星矢EPISODE.Gレクイエム 第17話 暗殺者 - 黄金聖闘士たちの最大最後の闘いがついに幕を開ける！！ 全話完全オールカラーで贈る、絢爛にして凄絶なる激闘の銀河神話！！

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Shura (protagonist) of Assassin returns.