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RWBY Vol 9 General Discussion Thread: Multiverse Of Therapy



That's talking about this I believe:

 
to be honest i want to agree with Jinx in this case, about considering the RWBYxJL non canon

however ONLY for this one, the rest ( Arrowfell and RWBY DC comics) i'm okay about being canon
 
to be honest i want to agree with Jinx in this case, about considering the RWBYxJL non canon

however ONLY for this one, the rest ( Arrowfell and RWBY DC comics) i'm okay about being canon
Arrowfell is canon story-wise yeah, but Rubys Invulnerability, like a game has suddenly levelled up Ruby's semblance off-screen, and the latest volume downright proving shes not invulnerable in her petal burst form, is clearly incorrect. We shouldn't take game mechanics over main source.

Invulnerability in the game seems to only be for game-mechanic convenience and advancing the characters you play as for a progressive experience
 
Arrowfell is canon story-wise yeah, but Rubys Invulnerability, like a game has suddenly levelled up Ruby's semblance off-screen, and the latest volume downright proving shes not invulnerable in her petal burst form, is clearly incorrect. We shouldn't take game mechanics over main source.

Invulnerability in the game seems to only be for game-mechanic convenience and advancing the characters you play as for a progressive experience

Not like she has it as an ability in the power section or being used. Its just the description of her powered up Semblance in the game.
 
Not like she has it as an ability in the power section or being used. Its just the description of her powered up Semblance in the game.
Ik but if im honest, the whole 'Petal Burst+' lile its evolved at all, when Ruby didnt even know the specifics of her power apparently, just sorta makes it unnecessary to have on the page in the first place. Its clearly just game-mechanic enhancement, and its been contradicted so it should be removed.

We should take the sequence of events and story of Arrowfell into canon, but not any sort of game-mechanic side behind a technique into consideration when it isn't really applicable and is contradicted
 
Ik but if im honest, the whole 'Petal Burst+' lile its evolved at all, when Ruby didnt even know the specifics of her power apparently, just sorta makes it unnecessary to have on the page in the first place. Its clearly just game-mechanic enhancement, and its been contradicted so it should be removed.

We should take the sequence of events and story of Arrowfell into canon, but not any sort of game-mechanic side behind a technique into consideration when it isn't really applicable and is contradicted

Just looked up the ability, and apparently the description says "momentarily invulnerable". So its not likes she invulnerable the whole time when in use.

 
Well yeah but that still undefines how shes invulnerable at all, and is still linked to the game-mechanic of being invulnerable (Like a mario star or DMC Royal Guard or smthn), rather than something ever described on the show, and outright disproven. Why would she be 'invulnerable' in only one instance of Petal Burst?
 
Well yeah but that still undefines how shes invulnerable at all, and is still linked to the game-mechanic of being invulnerable (Like a mario star or DMC Royal Guard or smthn), rather than something ever described on the show, and outright disproven. Why would she be 'invulnerable' in only one instance of Petal Burst?

I'm just going off what's written. Again, its not listed as a power nor is it being used. So I don't really see an issue with having it written in her Semblance section. Like I doubt anyone is ever going to use it. Its just there for indexing purposes since Arrowfell is canon.
 
'It has zero reason to be considered non-canon'
Its literally a Crossover fanfiction that is NEVER referred to in the main show, or guidebooks, or anything else. Theres also a current movie that looks like its going to majorly contradict our characters meeting them before

Until now, you thought it was only canon because of that statement that preceeded YEARS before it. Come on Weekly.
Jinx, NONE of the extended media is brought up in the show, but it is still canon. Arrowfell, Ice Queendom, the novels, Grimm Eclipse, none of it is ever brought up in the show, that does not make it non-canon.

Also, once again, you're wrong. The movie isnt contradicting anything, the movie has them meet a DIFFERENT justice league. The justice league from the comics isnt e justice league, it's just a bunch of people from remnant. The justice league in the movie is the actual justice league from the DC universe. They are different people entirely. It's even confirmed to take place at a different point int he timeline (the comic is between volumes 2 and 3, the movie is between 8 and 9)
 
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My Guy, this is literally ONLY about the first RWBY DC Comic, not the Justice League crossover. This preceeded the JL crossover by 2-3 years.

Theres no proof that the RWBY Dc comic and the JL comic are the same continuity, and even then DC branches off into its own multiverse territory.

Heck if we really look into it, the dude only says he wants it to be canon. It literally contradicts itself multiple times on the main series and changes characters almost entirely (the first RWBY DC comics that didn't crossover)
Jinx, Marguerite has written all of the RWBY comics published by DC, with the writers of RWBY working alongside her. None of the comics contradict the show at all, just because they arent directly referenced in the show does not make them non-canon.
 
Jinx, Marguerite has written all of the RWBY comics published by DC, with the writers of RWBY working alongside her. None of the comics contradict the show at all, just because they arent directly referenced in the show does not make them non-canon.
The DC comics contradict the show loads. The whole Cardin Weiss arc instead of Jaune, Tai being fine with Ruby leaving, Willow Schnee's entire character etc.

RWBY isnt a well written show Weekly, and its onyl gonna be worse if they keep 'making canon' the things that just clash.

Marguerite wriitng them all doesnt make them all canon at the same time. Miles only checks up on it but hes not the accomplished main writer, and his name isnt credited as such.
 
The DC comics contradict the show loads. The whole Cardin Weiss arc instead of Jaune, Tai being fine with Ruby leaving, Willow Schnee's entire character etc.

RWBY isnt a well written show Weekly, and its onyl gonna be worse if they keep 'making canon' the things that just clash.

Marguerite wriitng them all doesnt make them all canon at the same time. Miles only checks up on it but hes not the accomplished main writer, and his name isnt credited as such.
First DC comic is canon. JL one isn’t.
 
Jinx, NONE of the extended media is brought up in the show, but it is still canon. Arrowfell, Ice Queendom, the novels, Grimm Eclipse, none of it is ever brought up in the show, that does not make it non-canon.
Arrowfell, Ice Queendom, Grimm Eclipse etc. were made AFTER the fact, so of course they wont bring it up.

Grimm Eclipse is completely fine, as is Arrowfells (story). Ice Queendom is iffy since its a retelling of the show between V1-2 and is merely made canon crowd control for the ppl who thought Weiss just became 'not racist' too quickly. The concept of a Nightmare in the main show is fine too, but it was very clearly meant to be a reboot b4 miles needed to lunge off someones writing
Also, once again, you're wrong. The movie isnt contradicting anything, the movie has them meet a DIFFERENT justice league. The justice league from the comics isnt e justice league, it's just a bunch of people from remnant. The justice league in the movie is the actual justice league from the DC universe. They are different people entirely. It's even confirmed to take place at a different point int he timeline (the comic is between volumes 2 and 3, the movie is between 8 and 9)
How many 'versions of the justice league' are Team RWBY gonna exactly meet, and never mention again, for you to stop trying to make a crossover canon
 
no they literally havent though. You're using a statement for the RWBY DC Comics.

Weekly actually malding trying to make a crossover canon
They have, yes.

Jinx actually trying to argue that her word and opinion means more than the authors confirming they helped write the comic.
 
The DC comics contradict the show loads. The whole Cardin Weiss arc instead of Jaune, Tai being fine with Ruby leaving, Willow Schnee's entire character etc.

RWBY isnt a well written show Weekly, and its onyl gonna be worse if they keep 'making canon' the things that just clash.

Marguerite wriitng them all doesnt make them all canon at the same time. Miles only checks up on it but hes not the accomplished main writer, and his name isnt credited as such.
Not really? The first comic is a direct continuation of the end of volume 3 which leads directly into volume 4.

Not mentioned in the show =/= clashing. Just because you disagree with it doesnt mean it's not canon.
 
Arrowfell, Ice Queendom, Grimm Eclipse etc. were made AFTER the fact, so of course they wont bring it up.

Grimm Eclipse is completely fine, as is Arrowfells (story). Ice Queendom is iffy since its a retelling of the show between V1-2 and is merely made canon crowd control for the ppl who thought Weiss just became 'not racist' too quickly. The concept of a Nightmare in the main show is fine too, but it was very clearly meant to be a reboot b4 miles needed to lunge off someones writing

How many 'versions of the justice league' are Team RWBY gonna exactly meet, and never mention again, for you to stop trying to make a crossover canon
Neat, so was the JL comic.

And as of right now they've met two, one which isnt even the justice league, just a bunch of people from remnant.
 
They have, yes.

Jinx actually trying to argue that her word and opinion means more than the authors confirming they helped write the comic.
S o u r c e ?

Weekly stop dodging, where did they say JL crossover was canon. AFTER THE FACT. not in 2019 regarding the one comic that you cant prove has the same continuity

Toriyama 'helped' with GT, but that doesn't make it canon fr. Not everything the writers put their 2 cents in makes it automatically canon, ofc they need to approve any official media of a franchise
Not really? The first comic is a direct continuation of the end of volume 3 which leads directly into volume 4.

Not mentioned in the show =/= clashing. Just because you disagree with it doesnt mean it's not canon.
Yeah, with major plot inconsistencies and alternate takes to the show.

Gotta love Tai being completely fine with Ruby leaving despite her oriignally just not leaving without telling him.

Ppl who defend RWBY's writing be crazy

Neat, so was the JL comic.
Proof?
And as of right now they've met two, one which isnt even the justice league, just a bunch of people from remnant.
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What so they met these essentially identical strangers to ppl they've met before but cant remember them.

And they WONT run into this problem with the movie coming up, taking place apparently in V8-V9 RWBY? If thats 'canon', which i fr doubt it is.
 
S o u r c e ?

Weekly stop dodging, where did they say JL crossover was canon. AFTER THE FACT. not in 2019 regarding the one comic that you cant prove has the same continuity

Toriyama 'helped' with GT, but that doesn't make it canon fr. Not everything the writers put their 2 cents in makes it automatically canon, ofc they need to approve any official media of a franchise

Yeah, with major plot inconsistencies and alternate takes to the show.

Gotta love Tai being completely fine with Ruby leaving despite her oriignally just not leaving without telling him.

Ppl who defend RWBY's writing be crazy
I'm not defending anything, I acknowledge that its goofy, but also acknowledge that it is still canon in spite of its goofiness, as series with lore that is built up by wide-branching extended medias tend to be. At the end of the day though, the rwby writers made it very clear that this is canon.
RWBY x JL is set between volumes 2 and 3. The comic came out in 2021. Volume 2 came out in 2014. Ergo the comic was written seven years after the place in the timeline it is set, and thus obviously wouldnt have been referenced in the volume itself.
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What so they met these essentially identical strangers to ppl they've met before but cant remember them.

And they WONT run into this problem with the movie coming up, taking place apparently in V8-V9 RWBY? If thats 'canon', which i fr doubt it is.
Again, I dont have an answer to this yet as the film hasnt dropped. All we know at the moment is that the film is in fact canon.
 
I'm not defending anything, I acknowledge that its goofy, but also acknowledge that it is still canon in spite of its goofiness, as series with lore that is built up by wide-branching extended medias tend to be. At the end of the day though, the rwby writers made it very clear that this is canon.
No, its more you just REALLY like tryna scale RWBY to DC characters lol

Source that RWBY x JL comic is canon
RWBY x JL is set between volumes 2 and 3. The comic came out in 2021. Volume 2 came out in 2014. Ergo the comic was written seven years after the place in the timeline it is set, and thus obviously wouldnt have been referenced in the volume itself.
???
I asked you for the actual statement from the writers that RWBY x JL is canon. And also the proof they even confirmed this fact?
Just because we have an idea on whereabouts the characters are for their own benefit doesnt make the work canon
Again, I dont have an answer to this yet as the film hasnt dropped. All we know at the moment is that the film is in fact canon.
No we dont what???? How on Earth is both the comic AND the film is canon


Weekly im asking for a literal source to where Miles has said RWBY x JL is canon. You know as well as i do that just knowing whereabouts the RWBY characters are in the crossover for their own timelines sake (Cause yknow...after V3, its a completely different setting) doesnt confirm canon.
 
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Like is no one else witnessing this insane dodging for a source?
For someone who has never posted a source or scan for anything ever in their entire history on this forum, you demanding sources that have already been posted as though they havent already is laughable.

No, its more you just REALLY like tryna scale RWBY to DC characters lol

Source that RWBY x JL comic is canon
Are you thinking of a different comic? Because the RWBY x JL comic from 2021 doesnt have any actual DC characters in it. They're just RWBY characters loosely based on DC characters.

No we dont what???? How on Earth is both the comic AND the film is canon
Jinx, real talk, are you okay? I've explained this premise to you several times today alone.

Comic: Takes place between volumes 2 and 3, features characters who are native to remnant who only look vaguely like DC characters.

Movie: Takes place between volumes 8 and 9, features the actual justice league from the DC universe pulled into RWBY.

They're two completely different stories with different characters that happen at different times in the timeline, what are you confused about.
 
For someone who has never posted a source or scan for anything ever in their entire history on this forum, you demanding sources that have already been posted as though they havent already is laughable.
😭 Keep telling yourself that
Are you thinking of a different comic? Because the RWBY x JL comic from 2021 doesnt have any actual DC characters in it. They're just RWBY characters loosely based on DC characters.
Its a DC crossover Weekly. Its fanfiction.

Im aware theyre the 'Remnant' variants but a crossover is a crossover. And an extremely poor one at that. But that doesnt make it canon, again. Batman would have solved the Grimm problem easily
Jinx, real talk, are you okay? I've explained this premise to you several times today alone.

Comic: Takes place between volumes 2 and 3, features characters who are native to remnant who only look vaguely like DC characters.

Movie: Takes place between volumes 8 and 9, features the actual justice league from the DC universe pulled into RWBY.

They're two completely different stories with different characters that happen at different times in the timeline, what are you confused about.
The fact that only one of them could possibly be canon lol. The designs for the vaguely like DC characters (They're DC characters), are exactly the same as the ones they would have met for the movie.

You really think Weiss gets kissed by Batman and Cyborg and then...forgets she met the guys that look identical
 
Still no Source.

Bro really thinks a crossover is canon. Please, provide evidence for your claim that Miles has said the RWBY x JL continuity is CANON. Otherwise its as you usually are with RWBY...You just want it to for the sake of making them stronger lol.

Imagine claiming a comic was canon based on a statement made NOT ABOUT IT, and is just refusing to fess up they made a mistake, while also having the gall to say they can admit when they're wrong.
 
😭 Keep telling yourself that

Its a DC crossover Weekly. Its fanfiction.

Im aware theyre the 'Remnant' variants but a crossover is a crossover. And an extremely poor one at that. But that doesnt make it canon, again. Batman would have solved the Grimm problem easily

The fact that only one of them could possibly be canon lol. The designs for the vaguely like DC characters (They're DC characters), are exactly the same as the ones they would have met for the movie.

You really think Weiss gets kissed by Batman and Cyborg and then...forgets she met the guys that look identical
Y'know what? Let's flip the script: why don't YOU provide a source saying the crossovers AREN'T canon? And no "lol it's so obvious" malarkey, ACTUALLY PHYSICAL PROOF from either the people involved or the crossover itself that proves without a shadow of a doubt that they are, in fact, NOT canon. If you can't even prove that, then you're no better than Weekly in this situation.
 
Y'know what? Let's flip the script: why don't YOU provide a source saying the crossovers AREN'T canon? And no "lol it's so obvious" malarkey, ACTUALLY PHYSICAL PROOF from either the people involved or the crossover itself that proves without a shadow of a doubt that they are, in fact, NOT canon. If you can't even prove that, then you're no better than Weekly in this situation.
Didn't Weekly show a clip of the authors blatantly stating that the crossovers are canon? Or am I on drugs?
 
Y'know what? Let's flip the script: why don't YOU provide a source saying the crossovers AREN'T canon? And no "lol it's so obvious" malarkey, ACTUALLY PHYSICAL PROOF from either the people involved or the crossover itself that proves without a shadow of a doubt that they are, in fact, NOT canon. If you can't even prove that, then you're no better than Weekly in this situation.
Thats not how it works bro?

All crossovers are just generally non-canon (since they're crossover material, 2 direct pieces of media with equal rights of 'main source) unless stated otherwise. Weekly thought they could get away with this with a statement made not at all about the comic, and instead the one preceeding it with no confirmed continuity.

How much is Weekly paying you lmao?
 
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Didn't Weekly show a clip of the authors blatantly stating that the crossovers are canon? Or am I on drugs?
No, that was only in regards to the RWBY comic published by DC, not the RWBY x Justice League crossover comic. They arent the same, the clip was made 2 years before the crossover.

Weekly now claims theres another statement confirming their canon but wont show it. Once again Weekly duping the general vs battles wiki population with false info for the sake of making their fave characters stronger
 
Thats not how it works bro?

All crossovers are just generally non-canon (since they're crossover material, 2 direct pieces of media with equal rights of 'main source) unless stated otherwise. Weekly thought they could get away with this with a statement made not at all about the comic, and instead the one preceeding it with no confirmed continuity.

How much is Weekly paying you lmao?
I'm just sayin', "it's a crossover" is a pretty flimsy excuse to say it's not canon. Ever heard of one-sided canonicity?

Also, I do not like the implication that I'm being paid off, I'm just pointing out that your arguments aren't as strong as you seem to think. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Its a DC crossover Weekly. Its fanfiction.

Im aware theyre the 'Remnant' variants but a crossover is a crossover. And an extremely poor one at that. But that doesnt make it canon, again. Batman would have solved the Grimm problem easily
I think you need to brush up on your definition of 'crossover'. Its fanfic yes, but it is factually not a crossover as the character in the comic arent the actual justice league, they're a bunch of OCs from remnant who are loosely based on them.

And going by the current ongoing comic, your comment about Batman is demonstrably false lol.
The fact that only one of them could possibly be canon lol. The designs for the vaguely like DC characters (They're DC characters), are exactly the same as the ones they would have met for the movie.

You really think Weiss gets kissed by Batman and Cyborg and then...forgets she met the guys that look identical
Why would only one of them be canon? They're not connected in any way.

And claiming that they're identical is very, very generous lmao, og rwby batman didnt have bat wings and cyborg didnt have an afro. All of the designs other than Bruce are radically different from how they looked in the comic, because they're not the same characters.
 
Clarification, it was one of the writers for RWBY confirming that the rwby writing r
team worked alongside the writer for the RWBY dc comics, which includes the RWBY JL comic and the current ongoing crossover as they are all written by the same person
Are you referring to the RWBY x DC Comics crossover you're talking about currently with Jinx? Or was it the one Jinx mentioned previously to me?

No, that was only in regards to the RWBY comic published by DC, not the RWBY x Justice League crossover comic. They arent the same, the clip was made 2 years before the crossover.
 
I think you need to brush up on your definition of 'crossover'. Its fanfic yes, but it is factually not a crossover as the character in the comic arent the actual justice league, they're a bunch of OCs from remnant who are loosely based on them.

And going by the current ongoing comic, your comment about Batman is demonstrably false lol.
Batman realistically solves the Salem problem in an afternoon. This is a dude that has taken on Darkseid, Salem is nothing. Keep dreaming though

Weekly, its a crossover. These are characters from an established IP already, crossing into the World of Remnant, but with their own pre-made identities (cause even RWBY acknowledges DC would just solve all their problems easily lol). That doesnt not make it a crossover.
Why would only one of them be canon? They're not connected in any way.
The exact same character designs and no ones gonna bring up how these guys are practically identical to the versions on Remnant they apparently met before like you claim?
And claiming that they're identical is very, very generous lmao, og rwby batman didnt have bat wings and cyborg didnt have an afro. All of the designs other than Bruce are radically different from how they looked in the comic, because they're not the same characters.
They're the same characters from an existing IP reimagined. That doesnt make it any less a crossover. RWBY arent original for it lol.

Now please provide a source to say its canon.
 
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