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RWBY Vol 9 General Discussion Thread: Multiverse Of Therapy

WeeklyBattles said:
Besides Ruby's IR and Yang's AP what abilities are missing?
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*All characters having Accelerated Development (Training: Physical Statistics and Abilities)
*All characters gaining Awaken power via evolving their semblance
*The gods having likely Inorganic Physiology
*Aura granting residence to possession and resistance to matter manip/transmutation
*Auras heat resistance needs to be updated to account for them withstanding the temperature of lightning (as lightning dust is actual lightning, meaning it's as hot as it and ren and multiple others survived getting hit by it without burn marks (Nora getting lightning scars is because she overcharged her semblance and went so far her Aura broke after attacking once)
*ren needs Limited Stealth Mastery as his Semblance makes him invisible to Grimm.
*star to possibly universe level gods
 
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Spinoirr said:
*All characters having Accelerated Development (Training: Physical Statistics and Abilities)
*All characters gaining Awaken power via evolving their semblance
*The gods having likely Inorganic Physiology
*Aura granting residence to possession and resistance to matter manip/transmutation
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Ren should get Limited Stealth Mastery as his Semblance makes him invisible to Grimm.
 
Spinoirr said:
*All characters having Accelerated Development (Training: Physical Statistics and Abilities)
*All characters gaining Awaken power via evolving their semblance
*The gods having likely Inorganic Physiology
*Aura granting residence to possession and resistance to matter manip/transmutation
*Auras heat resistance needs to be updated to account for them withstanding the temperature of lightning (as lightning dust is actual lightning, meaning it's as hot as it and ren and multiple others survived getting hit by it without burn marks (Nora getting lightning scars is because she overcharged her semblance and went so far her Aura broke after attacking once)
*ren needs Limited Stealth Mastery as his Semblance makes him invisible to Grimm.
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Alright updated it
 
WeeklyBattles said:
So uh

Apparently Jasonsith calced Nora yeeting yang into orbit two years ago and no one noticed lol

vsbattles.fandom.com

RWBY - Yang gets launched into the sky harder

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Guess what, another Class K feat for the beacon arc , that makes five

Checking that off the list of needed calcs
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Currently can't see the calc atm, so the question I'm asking is how Nora launches Yang in the sky?
 
Us in the last weeks
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Okay so the basic argument is this

In the dream world, only the character's weapons (who are not possed by the Nightmares) are changed.
For example, Ruby's gun fires backwards, Yang's ember celica can fire enough force to splinter a tree, Blake's ribbon is really really long, and Jaune's sword is very big.

Nowhere on the website do they say that their base strengths got an increase. Only that their weapons got upgrades, like Blake' ribbon which shouldn't really matter much.


https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TheRustyOne/Ice_Queendom:_WS


Here, we see Nega Weiss summon a big storm that was calced at small city
Later on in the show, Nightmare Blake fights Nega Weiss to a standstill and even manages to push her back a lot.

And even further along that, Yang is able to contend with Nightmare Blake.

Now, I know there are some who question whether or not this feat is even acceptable.

First, it was confirmed in the show that damage taken in the dream effects the body and aura in real life. For instance, when Ruby was cut by a thorn in the dream world, her hand started to bleed in the real world.

Second, Ice Queendom has been called "canon-adjacent" to RWBY. This means that, if nothing is too glaringly obviously out of the ordinary, it should fit right in with the mainline canon. In fact, nothing in IQ directly contradicts the main show. The main events of the series take place between V1 and V2, and serve as an expansion to V1 mainly, fleshing out Weiss's character devolpment as well as Team RWBY working together as a team for the first time.

In fact, at the end of episode 11, Weiss makes the rest of the team members to promise her never to mention the events of IQ again due to her being embrassed by it, which can explain why the never bring it up in the main seires.

In fact, other canon games in RWBY fall into the same territory. Like how no one mentions Grimm Eclpise or Arrowfell in the show, despite them being canon.

Third, that this feat is a major outlier. For that, I agree if one looks as the RWBY timeline as a whole. However, that is not a fair assesment. From a narrative point of view, the strength of these characters cannot be judged by their future actions in a series that is meant to be at the start of their journey. For those who may say that it is a radical jump in power, I point to the fact that OG Dragon Ball went from around mountain AP to planent all with one feat from Master Roshi, yet we all accept that.
So, to recap
In IQ, only weapons are affected, not base strengths
It is canon adjacent and fits perfectly in the RWBY timeline with no major contradictions
And it is not fair to call these feat an outlier when other seires have similairy done other radically increases of power
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Without an explicit statement that their dream selves are equal to their real world selves there's pretty much no chance Low 7-B Pre-Timeskip RWBY is going to be accepted.
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^This

Plus the fact that the mangas add more dream realm feats that would put the cast viably at tier 6 but only in the dream realm...
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Without an explicit statement that their dream selves are equal to their real world selves there's pretty much no chance Low 7-B Pre-Timeskip RWBY is going to be accepted. Doesn't matter if IQ is canon.
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The website states it plain and clear. The only things that change from the real world to the dream world are the weapons.
 
Nothing else indicates that the dream world selves are any stronger then the real world selves, aside from peopel who are possed by nightmares, which is a major plot point.
 
In fact, Blake gets willingly taken over by a nightmare BECAUSE she wants a power increase to fend off Nega Weiss.
 
Cire said:
Nothing else indicates that the dream world selves are any stronger then the real world selves, aside from peopel who are possed by nightmares, which is a major plot point.
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"Nothing says they're stronger in the dream world" isn't a valid argument, we need a statement that their AP in the dream world is = to their AP in the real world.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
"Nothing says they're stronger in the dream world" isn't a valid argument, we need a statement that their AP in the dream world is = to their AP in the real world.
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Why would that assumption be made in the first place when nothing in the story indicates anything of the fact? The only exlicpt upgrades they recieve are their weapons, leaving the valid assumption that everything else about them is the same.
 
Cire said:
Why would that assumption be made in the first place when nothing in the story indicates anything of the fact? The only exlicpt upgrades they recieve are their weapons, leaving the valid assumption that everything else about them is the same.
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We can't just assume they're equal when they're clear discrepancies in ability between their real selves and their dream selves (Nega Weiss being able to manipulate the weather on a city-spanning scale already isn't something she's demonstrated in the real world last I checked). Once again: you need a explicit statement they're equal. That's the only way this upgrade can even be arguable, much less get accepted.

Not to mention a jump from Large Building level to Tier 6 is ludicrous, that's like a billionfold gap bare minimum. A false equivalence to Dragon Ball isn't gonna stop that from being an outlier without Tier 6 supporting feats for the Pre-Timeskip cast.

Just make separate keys for their dream world selves.
 
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SilentLyfe said:
Honestly more trouble than it’s worth. We don’t know how much power he had in those incarnations. The two we have currently is much simpler.
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I mean, we kinda do? King of Vale was the incarnation immediately before Ozpin and on top of having the same level of feats as the maidens he had access to and outright used three of the four relics during the great war.

The Wizard would just be Oz + the four maidens power-wise
 
WeeklyBattles said:
I mean, we kinda do? King of Vale was the incarnation immediately before Ozpin and on top of having the same level of feats as the maidens he had access to and outright used three of the four relics during the great war.

The Wizard would just be Oz + the four maidens power-wise
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I mean I guess? If you want to. Just in my opinion only having two keys for his original incarnation and his current one (Pre-Volume 4) is enough since it depicts his most powerful and where he is now.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Yeeeeaaaaah applying these revisions im really starting to think Mercury, Emerald, and Cinder are needing more keys...
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Quick question, why didn’t you make Salem straight up High 6-C? If it’s about her being physically weaker, it was already noticed in her striking strength and durability being lower than her AP.
 
""So long as this world turns, you shall walk its face". That was the curse cast upon her. But if Salem can divide Humanity beyond repair, and bring all four Relics together, she believes that maybe her curse will be broken. The Gods will rule against us and destroy Remnant, once and for all."

...Really starting to think Salem should have Type 8 immortality, not just regen
 
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