Spinoirr
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Good supporting evidence for post haven characters upscaling from 8 tons of tnt to city block level
Ruby Earthquake Recalc
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RWBY Vol 9 General Discussion Thread: Multiverse Of Therapy
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indeed, the original blog only had the feat at high 7-C because they used the wrong earthquake calc type but yeah this is much better
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I'm 90% sure shaking / earthquake feat calcs can't be used or aren't valid if it's in this smale of an area.Ruby Earthquake Recalc
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it most certainly can and is valid, besides this for one is using radiated waves and calculated as such its not using seismic energy
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I said it in the past and I'll say it again.
Weiss is the only member of team RWBY who actually fights and holds her own against Maiden Cinder even after her aura breaks.
Weiss is the only member of team RWBY who actually fights and holds her own against Maiden Cinder even after her aura breaks.
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Funny enough, Weiss was like fodder for most of the past V4 stuff. The Haven battle was so embarrassing for her. The V7 training arc really helped tbh. Anyway, Ruby and co should easily scale to Weiss. Ruby especially. She was able to basically solo the Furious Cat after they got done beating the combined forces of Weiss, Blake, Yang, and Jaune.no
DimeUhDozen
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Bumping out of interest.
You should probably send this to Calculation Evaluations as a blog.
Oh nvm, you did.
Just send that to Evals.
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RWBY is just that inconsistent. That's why it sucks.
Anyways Weiss solos the rest of the team.
Anyways Weiss solos the rest of the team.
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I mean it’s very consistent that they are all relative with one another. My main point is that the others can scale to Weiss easily.
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This makes no sense when you consider everyone BUT Weiss was getting rekt. Everyone loses to Cinder but Weiss and they are stated to be around Weiss’ level is too messy and inconsistent of a scaling chain you could easily just say Weiss is stronger than them.
(This won’t matter anyways when we finish the aura revisions)
(This won’t matter anyways when we finish the aura revisions)
DimeUhDozen
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They all seem to fight Neo-Curious Cat on the same terms and Ruby definitely had an edge during the fight/was one of the deciding factors in their victory. It’s pretty easy to scale them around Volume 9 once you take that into account.
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That is fair. I just don't believe that Weiss is suddenly unscalable to the other members. Her standing up to Cinder was impressive as in that any other member of Team RWBY could do the same. Yang got sneak attacked by Neo and took a hit for Ruby which is why she got knocked out so early. Ruby and Blake were knocked off of the platform. Weiss is known as the mage, the frail one of the group. If SHE could take those big hits, then any of Team RWBY could do the same.
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Also, what are the aura revisions you are talking about?
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In reality the aura thread will just make everyone scale around each other anyways. But that’s still something me and Scott are working on because it’s going to be a big deal
DimeUhDozen
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Plus, they ALL get hit by one of Curious Cat’s attacks and get up from it. It noticeably ragdolls Weiss.
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Aura will get buffed, at least in durability by a big margin but there will be basically 9-B, 7-C with Aura.
This is mainly because Aura, even from the beginning of the series is stated and shown to buff your physical capabilities and serve as a shield, but Everytime a person loses their aura they pretty much become useless and get one shot.
It’s a consistency thing, when people lose their forcefield they’re normal humans and can’t buff themselves so it makes no sense for them to have a Tier 8 base form essentially.
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What's the 7-c feat?
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In reality you’d be getting your wish, downscaling from maidens.
Although idk if there’s any 7-C feats it was just an arbitrary number
DimeUhDozen
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If it’s like how we currently treat Force-users I don’t really think I have an issue with that.
I recently dug up that 7-C Neo feat above, but who knows if it’s valid or if the user is still active.
I recently dug up that 7-C Neo feat above, but who knows if it’s valid or if the user is still active.
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If we have decided to downscale from maidens anyway, then I suppose I'll move into my next point of upgrade.
In this calc, Grimm that are already in tact in the river survive the impact to Atlas's shield in V8. We know they survive since, if they died, there would have been a shit ton of smoke. Now, they calced a Centinal as the one surviving the impact, which is sorta not true. The Centinals we see destroying the Atlas shield generators are much bigger than normal. However, we do see a Sabyr head pop up from the river in a previous scene.
Right here. A Sabyr and a Centinal shouldn't be too far off in terms of size. Thus, the Grimm would scale to this feat, which gets to around city level.
However, we also know that, again, giant Grimm like those super-sized Centinals survived the impact as well. Thus, any Grimm between the sizes of a Sabyr and the size of those big Centinals should scale as well. Like Megagoliaths and such.
In this calc, Grimm that are already in tact in the river survive the impact to Atlas's shield in V8. We know they survive since, if they died, there would have been a shit ton of smoke. Now, they calced a Centinal as the one surviving the impact, which is sorta not true. The Centinals we see destroying the Atlas shield generators are much bigger than normal. However, we do see a Sabyr head pop up from the river in a previous scene.
Right here. A Sabyr and a Centinal shouldn't be too far off in terms of size. Thus, the Grimm would scale to this feat, which gets to around city level.
However, we also know that, again, giant Grimm like those super-sized Centinals survived the impact as well. Thus, any Grimm between the sizes of a Sabyr and the size of those big Centinals should scale as well. Like Megagoliaths and such.
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One thing at a time, the aura stuff could likely take some time and if anything we can make another part to discuss the maiden scaling in a CRT
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It's still good to bring up stuff like this for supporting evidence. Why do you say the aura stuff might take a while?
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I can’t imagine that some people won’t take issue with it, but hey if people are this fine with it the. Maybe it won’t.
Just me being cautious.
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For me, I think it's better to put all the upgrades for the verse in one CRT so we can get it over and done with. I have one more argument as well. But it involves the Grimm geyser. Basically, I don't think Salem shoot it up in the first place. I think it moved itself all on its own. Whenever Salem uses TK, there is always a glow around the object. For the Geyser, there was no glow at all. And when the geyser hit the shield, Salem was sitting down doing nothing. In the other times she used TK, she had to use hand movements to do so.
I saw all this because we know the Grimm river came from Monstra. The beast threw it all up out from its own body. Like when Kevin spawned Grimm goo off of its body in V3, so can Monstra produce ludicrous amounts of Grimm goo from himself. The fact that Monstra did all this means he should scale to the Grimm river's feat. After all, it is made out of his own body parts. If any part of the Grimm river died, then there would have huge amounts of smoke. He also scales because he was able to produce such a large amount of liquid with no drawbacks to his body. This means that the latent energy that the river used to spring itself up and surive the impact must also be in Monstra.
As we know, Oscar kills Monstra with the Long Memory. So his cane would scale to the geyser as well. And since his shield protected him from the blast, so would it. And then Cinder can kill Opzin and then downscaling and yada yada.
Basically, I propsose that we make island level scaling expansive to the post V7 class of characters from scaling to Oscar's shield that protected him from a Monstra killing attack whom could scale to his spawn's large island level feat.
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Except no major issue, we don't treat systems like this how you're wanting to
Chakra doesn't make naruto 9-B, 5-C with chakra
Ki doesn't make goku 9-B, 2-C with ki
That'd not how we list these systems on the wiki, I could give several more examples but this is something I vehemently disagree with and will personally fight against
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Downscaling from maidens is the safest bet imo. Very clear evidence of that.
DimeUhDozen
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Some outliers maybe, but just gathering stuff. Could just be bad writing stuff, but tbh, the constant dogging on RWBY's writing quality is draining to get through. Not that they aren't valid, just draining.
Anyways.
Anyways.
- Nora manages to get this clean hit in on the Nuck after getting her Aura broken in this scene.
- Watts manages to continue fighting Ironwood after his Aura breaks.
- Winter somewhat holds her ground against Cinder, slicing off her Grimm arm and blocking her attacks after she shatters her Aura, though bleeds out and succumbs to her injuries afterwards.
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1st outlier involves my GOAT? Love to see it
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Also 9-B, No aura? Yeah nah they've still survivied hits from mfers with their aura's depleted so even if you wanted to downgrade them using that they'd have feats for them that would say otherwise.
Also ignores Auro also functions as their stamina so ofc when they fight to the point of depletion most mfers can't fight as its little bit more than just stat booster.
They should be scaled the same way they already are. Maiden stuff can be sorted separately but by no means is downgrading them to 9-B and X rating with aura acceptable
Also ignores Auro also functions as their stamina so ofc when they fight to the point of depletion most mfers can't fight as its little bit more than just stat booster.
They should be scaled the same way they already are. Maiden stuff can be sorted separately but by no means is downgrading them to 9-B and X rating with aura acceptable
DimeUhDozen
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She's queen of the castle. She's queen of the castle.1st outlier involves my GOAT? Love to see it
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COOK!
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You can add Weiss surviving Cinder’s blast in V8.
