I think quantity is a serious concern for reports. And it shouldn't be overlooked that each of those incidents is causing stress for those on the other end of Weekly's behaviour.
I don't disagree with this statement. In fact, it is possible for an excessive habit of minor offenses to eventually stack together to become a major offense. That's more or less what Spam would be. But I more so was also bringing up it wasn't just an excess of minor occurrences but some people throw in reports that weren't even report worthy at all in the mix of the numerous minor offense reports. That was the real issue I probably should have specified.
Second, I consider myself apt enough at picking up conversations about who, what and where, regardless of the place they happen. I've been in a good number of Discord servers, friend groups and general gatherings of VS peeps, and I can tell you that there has never been an agenda against Weekly in my extensive time spent there. There's been complaining, sure, and a lot of it as well, especially when he was still staff. But I consider the point moot and void when the complaints were mostly kept to themselves, and were legitimate, and the rule violations he committed at the time were also legitimate.
I should have been more specific yes, but I will point out details. Simply agreeing with Weekly's 2 year ban or permaban is NOT harassment. Bambu is not doing anything wrong, you're NOT on the list of people targeting him either, and Maverick also isn't doing anything wrong either. If you agree with a permanent ban, that is perfectly fine. I am not forcing any of you to change your minds. But at the same time, there are a few users who deliberately antagonize WeeklyBattles at every opportunity they see. There were a combination of legit reports and not so legit reports also, but only the legit ones should be focused.
What is the relevance, exactly, here? As you said, trolls do this sometimes, way more often in the ancient days. I've had gorn bombs and profiles impersonating me, you've had them, anyone who's been staff long enough has had them.
That was originally one of the list of reasons for his year long block, but it turned out to be a false detail. And several other staff DID bring it up, not just me. If that wasn't Weekly, it should be used as a reminder then.
Again, WE ARE NOT JUDGING WEEKLY BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO. Comprehend that please, and while you're at it stop digging up prehistoric shit to use as a counter-argument.
Agnaa already proved that statement wrong by listing the numerous things. Also, it's not just "Prehistoric examples" I legit have seen instances even amongst Bayonetta revisions that were created after Weekly's ban expired where Glass was hostile to him or called him "Incapable of debating or showing scans." And Weekly isn't the only person Glassman antagonizes, he has recently been antagonizing Antvasima a lot as of late where he calls him out over every minor offense or for suspecting a conspiracy while never commenting when others say things far worse against Antvasima
I don't really agree with that. There are plenty of reports that don't quite surpass our threshold for action, but it isn't as though Weekly has been on the receiving end of any particularly egregious reports. I looked over Dread's list of each of his warnings. The only person who has reported him multiple times is Glassman and in each of those cases the staff agreed to issue a warning, three reports over the course of a year isn't exactly that crazy given that Weekly really is that routinely problematic and Glassman is often the one being forced to deal with it. Every other report was from a different user, none of whom have some grudge against Weekly.
No one is disagreeing that Weekly hasn't been problematic, but the most recent report was the first time since Weekly ban that actually was in Glassman's favor. I have seen numerous times of Glassman behaving just as bad if not worse than Weekly on various Bayonetta threads. Jinx was also someone who Weekly had issues with and never liked WeeklyBattles and some of her arguments on RWBY threads such as calling some blatant fight scenes outliers for no reason were also things I understand Weekly being annoyed by. But take the joke he made on Discord was something way out of context that Mori made a rant to say, you can take and offsite joke and weaponize it against people. And I was informed by some people in DMs that Glassman is someone a lot of users complain about albeit not as much as someone like Eficiente.
Counting the votes, we have more support for a 2-year ban than any of the other options by a decent margin. I say this with the utmost respect to both you and DDM, but you two are the primary reason why Weekly has gotten away with 6-7 warnings in a year with no actual bans. It feels as though every time Weekly gets reported here you guys come to defend him, minimize his violations, or otherwise remind everyone that he is mentally ill or got bullied years ago on the site.
However, it's just no longer the case. I've read many of these threads where reports have cropped up, Weekly is the instigator. Weekly is the one bullying others. He insults, mocks, or laughs at any user who disagrees with him or who agrees with his debating opponents. He lies about evidence when he's losing an argument. He routinely declares himself objectively correct and stonewalls thread after thread after thread, he pretends to be a victim to garner sympathy and has spun up a conspiracy theory about a staff bias against him, to such an extent that several Admins have avoided involving themselves in his reports in order to avoid lending any credence to his paranoia. That's very problematic.
Looking back, I don't deny being too lenient or too generous and both of us tried to help him on DMs numerous times with his mental health or that we may be partially at fault for the special treatment. However, I still think there are comments in the second paragraph that are exaggerations.
Weekly hasn't gotten worse, he's has improved. Has he improved enough to the point where he is good enough to be on the wiki? That's debatable, but saying he hasn't gotten any better since the year long ban is a stretch. Laughing I see a little bit, and the most recent was indeed an insult, but I have seen more mocks and insults from a few of his opponents than I have from him. "Intentionally lying" is also a reach when it is most likely just his opinion even if a controversial opinion or him often misunderstanding. It is indeed problematic that several Admins don't even want to get involved in reporting him, I too have felt discouraged to defend him from time to time just because I get yelled at just for trying to reach out to help him with his mental health. And I often get stressed when RVR blows up whenever I'm at work or when I'm asleep. To the point where I feel it's difficult for me to respond to what went on while trying not to go Beast mode myself (A common symptom of PTSD). Likewise, he has shared to me a few scans where you Deagon said you'd give 20 dollars for people to agree with you, with ImmortalDread agreeing. I ignored it because I was positive those were just jokes, and that it would be hypocritical since people tried using the same thing to get Weekly banned even when Mori called out those being jokes. In his defense though, LordGinSama used to be someone Weekly had issues with and also had issues with Weekly, but I hear they're pretty much cool with each other nowadays. Not saying this can hold weight on outcome, but just one example that he still isn't as bad as he used to be.
Likewise, I often get informed that when bullying happens to him offsite or are from users already permabanned from the forum, that he should probably learn to let those go given that the "Already banned users" is something we got taken care of. And shouldn't impact how he behaves onsite.
And now that Qawsed has commented recently and the votes are in favor of the stricter ban. I may not agree with going that far and think middle ground compromise could be discussed, but what is done is done. A 6 month or perhaps 1 year might be the best I can reduce it too now that the votes are in.
