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Okay but you told him to die
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Ban that man
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That's like doing deduction with a very biased mind. The first thing which you think of after hearing the word "Die" is, I guess, dying? The best stuff you can get banned for it on social media is I guess "self-harm inducement"? I am pretty sure only a kid would get traumatized off that, and that too, of 8 years or lower. If Arnold seriously took it to that direction, then I would like to make it clear that my entire intention was, "If it even gets done, I wouldn't care.". I don't think I do any kind of witchcraft through which I can seriously send him to hell or something. Now don't think I can simply because I mentioned because you used that logic only. But let's come to reality, Arnold is not a kid. The staff and everyone uses profanity, cuss words and what not, it's like swearing as well, so I don't know why it isn't bannable. Secondly, my entire point was just mentioning that I myself was going to neglect him like he publicly announced it, so I don't know why you are really bootlicking his side.
If Arnold really attempted self-harm, the environment of the thread was done. Then it's well and good for a one month ban I guess. But from the views of it, Arnold seriously didn't reply to some of my points, and you as a TM would know how annoying that feels. Tbh for me, the topic going on in that thread was not going in the real sense of discussion which I thought was important to get fixed, and that's all. It's seriously me who was being asked of leaving the topic without being given appropriate reasons for some points as well, where literal messages were trimmed.
RoggerReggor
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Is he a kid who would seriously take everything like that seriously? Come on man, I have heard primary teachers say that swearing or cursing whatever you say. That doesn't mean I am literally doing any kind of "self-harm inducement" like you are framing.
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This is like telling somebody to drown and saying “I intended it to mean cry”
People have been banned for less, take the L
@Antvasima i suggest a few weeks
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I’m not gonna listen to you trying to justify why you told someone to die
I don’t think a month is enough given the severity of this. Two months at minimum is my take
I don’t think a month is enough given the severity of this. Two months at minimum is my take
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Yeah, nah. Make that two months MINIMUM.
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Yeah the thread has been pretty chaotic and there's no excuse for it. I'm fine with a month though whatever everyone else agrees to I'm not opposed to
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I agree with 2 months.
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Sorry to intrude, but seeing that @Vapourrrrr was banned on site, shouldn't he be banned on the wiki too? I still see him sticking around, and it occurs to me Maverick may have forgotten his wiki account as well
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Vapourrrr also asked Morris to write for him here, I don't know how it works but considering he is topic banned is it fine?
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Not really sure that's recommended, but I'll just let the higher-ups take care of that
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Would like to point however that in the message @MorrisHatesYou posted for him he said things like this:
Bolded the specific insults (the same that warranted him the warning and ban) but the message in general retain the exact same level of hostility that got him baned. So, if indeed will be allowed for him rarely convey a message through other users then the post here need to at least be devoid of any insult and toxicity/hostility, otherwise there is no point in the ban if he can continue with the bad behaviour here.
Additionally this, please also ban him on site because the fact that he can freely jump in conversations when someone arise a doubt/point against calculations (more specifically TR as he already was forbidden from participate in them), and I'm saying this because when I asked a question to @DMUA about a problem I see he went and posted a message to brought unreleated calculations from other verses with completely different context to justify what the problem I see with the calc (something that DMUA himself pointed how those things are different to this calc).
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Vapourrrr is also still commenting on Tokyo Revengers calc blogs despite his topic ban
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But yeah at this point we may need to change the topic ban to a straight-up ban due to his constant hostility and refusal to abide by his topic ban
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As I said in my message, the idea behind another person making posts for a banned user, is that if they don't keep it clear of toxicity, they're at risk at getting banned as well.
I don't think a ban should be extended with how soon its been since it was applied, but I think @MorrisHatesYou should be warned.
Keep posting slurries of insults on behalf of other users, and it'll be treated as you posting them.
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Vapourrrr's ban stems from two things:
- His hostility. This is obvious, but I'm gonna elaborate further on this. He continuously poisons the well in Tokyo Revengers debates, insisting that anyone who disagrees with his scaling or calcs (even if they're heavily inflated) is simply a hater of the verse. And of course, he uses ad hominems like crazy. We can get into KLOL's behavior if necessary, but that's not going to invalidate Vapourrr's ban all of a sudden.
- His refusal to abide by his topic ban. He was previously topic banned from Tokyo Revengers threads, but continued to take part through calc blogs and comments on said blogs. In addition, whenever he'd have someone send a message in a TR thread in his stead, it'd be laced with the same toxicity that got him topic banned to begin with. He hasn't learned a thing.
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I was looking for that, yeah
He made a mass speed downgrade thread and admitted that it was out of spite
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He also made ten downgrade threads for multiple verses, and IIRC he did it out of spite before his ban.
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Yeah, and KLOL only said those all caps because he was provoked. Because he was annoyed by Vapourr legit being really obnoxious and stonewalling the thread constantly. And him making a thread to downgrade 10 verses all at once and openly admitting to do it out of spite does not sit right. And I think accusing KLOL of "Behaving worse" is a pretty gross exaggeration as he is not the type who would just deliberately downgrade a bunch of verses out of spite.
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Vapourrrrr was banned for the stealth TR CRT.
Vapourrrrr had already been warned to stop posting in TR calc blogs, due to the topic ban, yet he continued to do so. Multiple times, even after the forum ban.
Vapourrrrr's claim that it was just based on tackling multiple verses in one thread, having too many CRTs open, and being rude, is not true. Those offenses would, in fact, have just been warnable.
KLOL said a few somewhat rude things, so I don't mind if there's a warning about that, Vapourrrrr wasn't banned for being rude, that was just brought up after the ban. And admittedly, rereading those comments, I don't think they're much to worry about since they were targeting the arguments, not the person. While there could be a comparison drawn between the insults KLOL made in the downgrade thread
Only revelations I have now are that I'd prefer Rogger's ban be shorter, and the message Morris quoted wouldn't risk punishment if repeated, although he should still be aware of the risk of worse insults slipping in.
Vapourrrrr had already been warned to stop posting in TR calc blogs, due to the topic ban, yet he continued to do so. Multiple times, even after the forum ban.
Vapourrrrr's claim that it was just based on tackling multiple verses in one thread, having too many CRTs open, and being rude, is not true. Those offenses would, in fact, have just been warnable.
KLOL said a few somewhat rude things, so I don't mind if there's a warning about that, Vapourrrrr wasn't banned for being rude, that was just brought up after the ban. And admittedly, rereading those comments, I don't think they're much to worry about since they were targeting the arguments, not the person. While there could be a comparison drawn between the insults KLOL made in the downgrade thread
And Rogger's comments he got banned for
I do have to say that Rogger's is more serious. And if people on the wiki want to be even harsher on insults invoking death (although I don't think that's necessary), that'd draw an even greater distinction between them.
Only revelations I have now are that I'd prefer Rogger's ban be shorter, and the message Morris quoted wouldn't risk punishment if repeated, although he should still be aware of the risk of worse insults slipping in.
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I was only referring to that KLOL506 was behaving in a more hostile manner in that specific thread.
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It will be better to ping KLOL to come here to make it clear for himself
With that, i'm gonna leave from this thread again
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This is not intended to be an investigation into how KLOL506 behaves. I only noted that repeatedly screaming in all caps at Vapourrrrr while threatening to get him banned was not an ideal way to handle the situation.
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I had always been weary of vappour and I was gathering up stuff on him. He said multiple things calling out CGM members and calling them bias. I gave some of this too Klol since he’s getting talked too behind his back and I did for dmua as well.
Klol in most situations was provoked and as an active member I can say this.
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Hey vappour made another account and said
“You want me to be banned for what dude ? You suck up to CGM'S just so you can build a case against me, its just annoying at this point get off of me, you report me over the smallest things, me calling people biased isn't report worthy dude ? (Ban worthy)”
I never once reported him.
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Can you link to it please?
Also, I just undid quite a lot of statistics changes that he made without linking to any discussion thread where they were accepted.
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Also, I just undid quite a lot of statistics changes that he made without linking to any discussion thread where they were accepted.
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Can you link to it please?
Also, I just undid quite a lot of statistics changes that he made without linking to any discussion thread where they were accepted.
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