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As I said in my message, the idea behind another person making posts for a banned user, is that if they don't keep it clear of toxicity, they're at risk at getting banned as well.
I don't think a ban should be extended with how soon its been since it was applied, but I think @MorrisHatesYou should be warned.
Keep posting slurries of insults on behalf of other users, and it'll be treated as you posting them.
I've blocked the user.This dude vandalized some Jojo profiles:
Reverted everything ofc
There were a few things that were fair points, but the real issue is the way he handled them. The topic should have been focused one at a time rather than all at once. And he especially shouldn't have said he was doing so out of spite.Vapourrrrr claims that the statistics changes he applied were accepted.
Antvasima
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are we sure this is an actual vandal? 2-C for the top tiers of the verse and a far higher don't seem that controversial to be blatant vandalism, this could be just some guy who's confusedI've blocked the user.
Tooru never did something worth to be even Tier 2 ever.are we sure this is an actual vandal? 2-C for the top tiers of the verse and a far higher don't seem that controversial to be blatant vandalism, this could be just some guy who's confused
could be a weird misinterpretation, you know how they can be. If he is a vandal then why didn't he make josuke tier 2?Tooru never did something worth to be even Tier 2 ever.
No idea, and I don't care either.could be a weird misinterpretation, you know how they can be. If he is a vandal then why didn't he make josuke tier 2?
Everybody here, please make certain that the vandal edits really have all been reverted the next time something like this happens.This dude vandalized some Jojo profiles:
Reverted everything ofc
Can you link to it please?
Also, I just undid quite a lot of statistics changes that he made without linking to any discussion thread where they were accepted.
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Tbf, he did made comments on the link provided by Antvasima as well as doing some messages on a different message wall.He hasn't posted anything or edited anything though. How did you discover this?
Would like to point however that in the message @MorrisHatesYou posted for him he said things like this:
Bolded the specific insults (the same that warranted him the warning and ban) but the message in general retain the exact same level of hostility that got him baned. So, if indeed will be allowed for him rarely convey a message through other users then the post here need to at least be devoid of any insult and toxicity/hostility, otherwise there is no point in the ban if he can continue with the bad behaviour here.
Additionally this, please also ban him on site because the fact that he can freely jump in conversations when someone arise a doubt/point against calculations (more specifically TR as he already was forbidden from participate in them), and I'm saying this because when I asked a question to @DMUA about a problem I see he went and posted a message to brought unreleated calculations from other verses with completely different context to justify what the problem I see with the calc (something that DMUA himself pointed how those things are different to this calc).
The issue I have here is I technically still see this as ban evasion as you are supposed to made that appeal on the main account and definitely not on the wiki for that matter.What????
He created that account just so he could appeal the ban, presumably because he didn't know that wiki staff can be measured on other wikis (like https://community.fandom.com ) for that sort of thing.
He hasn't done any activity with it. That extra account shouldn't be permabanned, and the ban duration on the main shouldn't be extended, as long as no actions on the wiki takes place on it.
ig we could consider the message left on Clout5560's wall a violation, maybe? Y'all should've mentioned that, instead of making it sound like any attempt to appeal a ban would instead extend the ban.
Thanks for making a permanent ban for you easier, Vapourrrr.Vapourrrrr2
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Obvious sockpuppet of the original account.
Vapourrrrr
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It is pretty obvious this is the case
When I mean by informing someone, I meant he coulda inform someone off site regarding that ban appeal although it was already rejected to say the least.Most bans are done such that the main account can't post on message walls on the wiki. I don't know why you brought the forum up, since I don't think that alt has an account here.
Probably not since the threads were still in discussion to say the least.Also, should I restore the recent wiki edits made by his main account before it was banned or not?
Antvasima
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I see.
Well, that's a permanent ban on his alt and an increased ban on his main. I'm thinking 3 months.
Ngl, even though it was made to do a ban appeal. The fact he still contact you off site only proves the fact he could definitely done that off site instead of doing it on the wiki.
Sorry, gotten caught up on the moment.It's fine for someone to appeal their ban themselves, rather than sending it through a third party.
Ideally they'd do this on https://community.fandom.com
If they don't, and make an alt, that can work, but it absolutely shouldn't be used for other wiki activity, such as to send disparaging messages to the user who reported them.
HammerStrikes, stop harping on about them doing it off-site. You have brought it up repeatedly. As non-staff, you're just meant to bring up novel arguments, then leave for staff to evaluate them. Not to repeatedly insist on the importance of those arguments.
If they don't, and make an alt, that can work, but it absolutely shouldn't be used for other wiki activity, such as to send disparaging messages to the user who reported them.
I don’t think the ban was being unfair to Vapour at all when the reports was him being consistently hostile to others in the threads linked above.
He is not declining the fact he messaged him in his wall, but also, I think it is normal human reaction if someone was constantly trying unfairly to ban someone, and apparently this is reaction to it which in fact, was unwanted, but everyone reacts differently.