Road to the World's Greatest Swordsman; Roronoa Zoro vs Meliodas!!!

[KobsterHope07]

In order to reach the title of World Greatest Swordsman and reach to Mihawk, Zoro have to become stronger and luckily for him, there are plenty of other swordsmen he can test his skill with.

Sealed Meliodas vs Dressrosa Roronoa Zoro (Post-Timeskip)

Both are at 7-B

7-A stat for Meliodas is restricted

Meliodas wield Liz's sword

Speed is Equalized

RULES;-

Neither one has any time to prepare

Both are bloodlusted

Konoha, because why not.

With all this being said, let the debate begin!

VOTES

Roronoa Zoro; 9 (Yoh Asakura, Js250476, Calaca Vs, Rin the Dragon Empress, DragonEmperor23, Rei Ruburo, Schnee One, Peter1129, AstralKing7)

Meliodas: 1 (Muuuuh)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[The_Calaca]

Niiiiiice.

BTW Mel can't FC the slashes. It's not magic.

 

[Ryuga21]

Zoro is a better swordsmanship, haki ans ES makes him dodges most of Mel attacks and he can uses Ashura to one-shots (Bloodlust Zoro attack for kill his enemy quickly). Zoro takes.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

What makes you say Zoro's a better swordsman?

 

[The_Calaca]

He has not only developed his own fighting style but learned from the very best. He's able to outclass people with more options, more versatility and power. Is able to predict the next movement even without Observation like he did against Kaku.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

What about his experience?

 

[The_Calaca]

Aren't you the guy who argued that skill>experience in my Natsu vs Mel thread?

 

[Ryuga21]

@DragonEmperor

Mastery in a complex fighting sword style (Santoryu), treined with Mihawk who can defeats skilled swordsmans with a toy knife, better feats with sowrds or weapons like a sowrd (cuts a building and a guy with a knife, casually cuts a mountain and etc), also Zoro constantly pratic meditation to calm his mind and soul in a sword fight.

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

I think you should change this fight to their High 7-A key OP, simply because Meliodas uses an actual sword rather than a broken one and they should still be comparable since Zoro scales to Basil Hawkins who sclaes to Law who harm Doflmaingo who is High 7-A (3.26) via his Birdcage feat.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Aren't you the guy who argued that skill>experience in my Natsu vs Mel thread?

Yeah, I just wanted to know both.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Zoro much better shown skills even pre time skip. I'll post some of his swordman feats here, keep in mind these are all pre time skip, Before his training with Mihawk.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Zoro also beat a Legendary Samurai who's a lot older and has a hell of a lot more experience than Zoro. For reference Ryuma is capable of doing this.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Zoro fra

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Zoro takes this for the reasons above.

 

[The_Calaca]

Okay, now that we have settled the skill argument:

Zoro has numerous amps he can do here. He's 14 Megatons with Haki, but he can use the Gorilla technique and the Asura. He also has the range advantage, which Meliodas can't capitalize because what he does isn't magic.

Zoro 8/10.

 

[Js250476]

Moss Head fra

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

Zoro fra

 

[KobsterHope07]

Votes;

Zoro: 6 {Yoh Asakura, Js250476, Calaca Vs, Rin the Dragon Empress, DragonEmperor23, Rei Ruburo}

Meliodas: 0

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Muuuuh]

Meliodas easy, he have regen, can protect himself with Dark katter, burn Zoro with Hell fire or Just Destroy The Área like he make with Edinburgh.

He also can make Air pressure blades, All The things that Zoro have(less Haki) he had better and he had a lot of abilities more than Zoro.

 

[The_Calaca]

His Regenerationn is limited and IDK if he can use it while sealed.

The Dark Matter isn't some kind of invulnerability and while sealed he can't use it.

Tell me how destroying the area is any useful? He isn't like Broly who'd blow up the planet and kill his opponent with that.

Can Meliodas use air pressure with the broken sword? Zoro has faced enemies with those abilities before and won.

 

[Schnee_One]

Zoro makes a comeback FRA

 

[Js250476]

Graceful period for a swordsman begins

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Also, Tatsumaki attacks are omnidirectional and toss the opponent around. As for his regen, it's limited to his stamina. And well, Zoro has ridiculous stamina and endurance.

 

[Schnee_One]

Whats Zoro's AP and scaling chain again?

 

[AstralKing7]

Zoro fra

 

[KobsterHope07]

Whats Zoro's AP and scaling chain again?

Zoro scales to his own feat; https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._Dressrosa_Calc_Mashup#Zoro.27s_Daisen_Sekkai

 

[Schnee_One]

Thanks

Scaling chain?

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

He can one shot and stomp people who are comparable to him and has multiple methods of increasing his AP.

 

[The_Calaca]

Said attack isn't casual but isn't anywhere near his maximum output even without other amps. So it's semi-casual.

 

[Muuuuh]

His Regenerationn is limited and IDK if he can use it while sealed.

The Dark Matter isn't some kind of invulnerability and while sealed he can't use it.

Tell me how destroying the area is any useful? He isn't like Broly who'd blow up the planet and kill his opponent with that.

Can Meliodas use air pressure with the broken sword? Zoro has faced enemies with those abilities before and won.

While sealed the dark matter could still be used, Meliodas used it in the fight against Helbtam without problems, used against Galan without problems before the seal was undone as well.

Regen Limited or not would still be quite useful against someone who does not own it. Meliodas loses an arm and regenerates, Zoro loses an arm and ends for him.

Yes, Meliodas did this in the first chapter against twigo destroying the entire forest.

https://s8.mkklcdnv8.com/************/r1/read_nanatsu_no_taizai_manga_online_free/chapter_1/53.jpg

And Destroy The entire Área is usefull cause its a AoE attack that can be used in range.

Meliodas can make all The things Who these version of Zoro can, and much more.

Meliodas have this mid diff

 

[The_Calaca]

The Dark Matter won't help Meliodas at all. There's nothing that would help from it.

Zoro is an expert in Busoshoku Haki. This type of Haki protects the user from sword slashes making him virtually invulnerable against those attacks if they don't exceed his Durability. On top of that, Meliodas' weapon isn't a sword at all, just a broken one with no blade. How is he cutting Zoro's arm then?

Implying that I argued against Mel's AoE. That kind of attack is useful, but he's not the kind of guy who spams AoE at all. I also not sure if Mel holds the range advantage here. Mel doesn't start with PoD, does he?

 

[KobsterHope07]

I think you should change this fight to their High 7-A key OP, simply because Meliodas uses an actual sword rather than a broken one and they should still be comparable since Zoro scales to Basil Hawkins who sclaes to Law who harm Doflmaingo who is High 7-A (3.26) via his Birdcage feat.

The deal with that is kinda iffy with revision of One Piece. Hard to make a solid on that with the current state there. Depending on what happen, with the Dressrosa's size issue and whatsnot, this match might unfortnate be invalid, I hope not but...

I might just have to stop using the Post-Timeskip One Piece characters til the revision is done.

 

[The_Calaca]

Yes, you should. I bet you can find a lot of great matches for the Pre TS characters.

 

[Peter1129]

So Zoro is 7-B via semi-casually doing a 14.37 Megaton feat while Sealed Base Meliodas 7-B via effortlessly killing Unsealed 2nd Form Dale who is stronger than his first Unsealed Form which is stronger than Post-Training Gilthunder who is stronger than his Pre-Training self who created a 14.19 Megaton storm. And that's not even counting his Demon Mark which allowed him to instantly stomp Ban who had both of theirs powers combined.

So doesn't Meliodas AP stomp here?

 

[The_Calaca]

That scaling chain is huge.

BTW, IDK if we scale Zoro to Elizabello II, who's 30MT IIRC. I think we do, since he's superior to Pica who in a inferior golem required the combined effort of Chinjao and Elizabello to destroy one of his arms.

But it seems that Mel should be comparable to totally amped Mel if we scale him to his own feat and nothing more.

 

[Peter1129]

Even if Zoro scales to 30 Megatons I still don't see how he would win against Sealed Meliodas. Because keep in mind that Meliodas can also activate his Demon Mark in an instant. He pretty much activated his demon mark and stomped Ban the instant Ban punched him with their combined powers. So the moment Meliodas realizes he's losing against Zoro he'll just activate the Demon Mark and stomp him. Though I'm pretty sure his Base Form's AP is comparable to Dressrosa Zoro. So the match should still be fair if the Demon Mark is restricted.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

If Zoro is 30 Megatons then he'd have the AP advantage regardless of the chain scaling for Meli. He'd be above 14 Megatons but by an uncertain amount, meanwhile Zoro scales to a solid number.

 

[The_Calaca]

But now this looks far better than before.

I guess we need to look after Zoro's scaling right now. I think he should scale to Elizabello, and use the Daisen Sekai as a supportive feat instead of his maximum output.

Okay, the things we have so far:

• Zoro skillstomps.

• If Zoro's 14 MT, Mel AP stomps. If Zoro's 30 MT he should have a good advantage.

• Mel has AoE but I think Zoro has better range.

• Mel has regen but Zoro has way more stamina.

The only way I see Mel winning is using Dark Matter, because his punches ain't as good as that and his sword is broken so he isn't gonna cut Zoro at all. Even then, Zoro's Busoshoku helps him with that protecting him from Blunt Force and Slashes.

 

[Peter1129]

Pretty sure whoever has the higher AP is debatable if Zoro does scale to the King Punch which is 30.95 Megatons. Since I'm pretty sure effortlessly stomping a character that's much stronger than 14.19 Megatons should be comparable to 30.95 Megatons.

Oh right also the match never specified if he was using the Dragon handle or Liz's sword.

 

[Rin_The_Dragon_Empress]

Pretty sure whoever has the higher AP is debatable if Zoro does scale to the King Punch which is 30.95 Megatons.

Not really, Zoro would scale above 30 Megatons along with several Stat amps. Mel would scale above 14 Megatons along with some stat amps. Going by actual numbers Zoro would hold the AP advantage regardless. Numbers>> chain scaling