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It's already reached grace period. So we just wait till it ends before closing it I suppose.
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Rimuru Tempest vs Xeno Goku
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Please do
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Just close it after 20 hours.
Sniper670
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When did we reach such conclusions?,
Sniper670
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This comment sums it up. Must be closed
Vietthai96
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No no, it is not a win, just closs this thread, please Ant
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Now I am confused on who has more wincons ngl
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This pretty much sums up my thoughts
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Pretty much yep. But we still need grace period to end before adding the win tho.
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So...should we do a revote?
Peak
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it depends on the context of the battle, either can potentially beat the other
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As i said before, my vote is still on inconclusive.
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Yes,but the wincons for both are being re-discussed
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Well yes it did and the match has reached grace period. But the other sides still have arguments.
Sniper670
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Whaaat? Op is that you?
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Me and Yemma voted Incon,i believe. You should ask him tho
Peak
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There were new arguments after the vote, and many of them ended with no satisfactory answer, so this shouldn't be considered
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I agree with peak. New arguments are being brought up and some votes have not been added.
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thats really bold(pun intended) considering there are no 2A space in tensura, not even 2B, there are only several parrarel world
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This thread got a bit missy, but can anymone summarise the points to why goku can't effect the imaginary space please?
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It seems that is the best decision that we can do at the moment in my opinion.
Peak
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Goku has AP for that, but he doesn't know about the existence of imaginary space and can't feel Rimuru, and even with AP, it would be out of character for him to destroy the multiverse to reach it, and the imaginary space can only be accessed by Rimuru or whoever he allows, not even abilities that transcend time can reach there
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Okay. Can somebody list all of the members who have voted and/or contributed here previously, so I can send a notification to them, please?
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2A + interdimensional extrasensory Perception covers the reason why he would know.
He doesn't need to destroy, just seal and summon.
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That is probably a good idea, yes.
Sniper670
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Okay. I'll lay out the wincons on both sides. Then we can have a civil discussion on that.
Rimuru wincons;
Goku counters
1- Goku has 2-A range which is indefinitely higher than 2-B range. So yes goku can and will effect imaginary space. Lets not forget that goku summons have higher than baseline 2-A range....so Imaginary space gets cucked^2.
2- DBH info type 2 should be similer to Slime's CM1, since it is fundamental and effecting reality doesn't effect these info. Plus, DBH power null can null 4-D layered info so....Slime gets nulled.
3- DD+ other passive stamina reducinh hax + Energy reducing hax means that the moment the fight starts, Slime would be in the worst possible situation ever. He will be either constantly in a bare minimum staining state, or just night instantly get cucked to 0 stamina. Which he has no answer for.
4- Any ability, effect or hax that will come in contact to goku [or his summons that have The KS] Will instantly, automatically and passively be nulled.
5- Goku doesnt need to kill Slime to win, he just needs To DD, Seal and bfr. Which are all viable options.
Rimuru wincons;
- Resistance to conceptual power null which makes KS power null here useless
- RE to adapt to and resist KS layered resistances, negation, potency
- Mobius system and mana breeder reactor producing infinite energy infinitely to counter DD
- Turn null with CM1, void manipulation
- HGR, immortality type 9, acasuality 3 to escape sealing and buy time to analyze goku, KS and summons
- Ciel analysis not being dependent on magicules (rimuru has run out of energy in BoS and great sage was still functioning)
Goku counters
1- Goku has 2-A range which is indefinitely higher than 2-B range. So yes goku can and will effect imaginary space. Lets not forget that goku summons have higher than baseline 2-A range....so Imaginary space gets cucked^2.
2- DBH info type 2 should be similer to Slime's CM1, since it is fundamental and effecting reality doesn't effect these info. Plus, DBH power null can null 4-D layered info so....Slime gets nulled.
3- DD+ other passive stamina reducinh hax + Energy reducing hax means that the moment the fight starts, Slime would be in the worst possible situation ever. He will be either constantly in a bare minimum staining state, or just night instantly get cucked to 0 stamina. Which he has no answer for.
4- Any ability, effect or hax that will come in contact to goku [or his summons that have The KS] Will instantly, automatically and passively be nulled.
5- Goku doesnt need to kill Slime to win, he just needs To DD, Seal and bfr. Which are all viable options.
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Basically, the new spirit erased all world(2c multiverse), however Imaginary Space is alright and fine, even Veldora is sleeping peacefully there and doesnt realise when all concept governing the entire multiverse is gone, though probably 2A range can reach it
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