Requirements for Boundless

[Berhann]

Can someone please explain the requirements of boundless,what kind of feet is needed,or what has to be done to qualify for boundless?

If you can give an example it'd be great too.

(Btw dont copy what is written in wiki and paste here I already look there but didnt understand a single word, that's why I am asking in the first place

 

[Sus]

well as simple as it is, transcended an infinite hierarchy with each hierarchy having infinite hierarchies with each one having blah blah blah going ad infinitum

basically transcend a high 1A hierarchy

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Okay see, you know what outerverse level is? It's basically when you transcend an infinite dimension hierarchy completely even beyond uncountably infinite dimensions, or completely beyond dimensional scale, it's aleph 2 mathematically, now take that tier and no matter how many infinities you stack on that, you won't get to the next tier high outerverse level because it's completely unreachable from outerverse level, now just copy paste this to boundless level, and there you go, the same way high 1-A is above 1-A is how 0 is above high 1-A.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

or just use something as complicated as this.

free from all notions of Existence and Non-Existence and that all concepts and ideas are ultimately unreality. Notions such as unspeakable numbers, numbers beyond infinity, etc, which are unreality. Even unfathomable Infinity is an arbitrary illusion. Even given distinctions like incalculable, measureless, boundless, incomparable, innumerable, unaccountable, unthinkable, immeasurable, unspeakable, unspeakably unspeakable and untold each of which is fourth power the last, even the notion of definite numbers

 

[TheDivineHost]

or just use something as complicated as this.

free from all notions of Existence and Non-Existence and that all concepts and ideas are ultimately unreality. Notions such as unspeakable numbers, numbers beyond infinity, etc, which are unreality. Even unfathomable Infinity is an arbitrary illusion. Even given distinctions like incalculable, measureless, boundless, incomparable, innumerable, unaccountable, unthinkable, immeasurable, unspeakable, unspeakably unspeakable and untold each of which is fourth power the last, even the notion of definite numbers

You ain't all right.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

You ain't all right.

?

 

[Darksmash]

Even given distinctions like incalculable, measureless, boundless, incomparable, innumerable, unaccountable, unthinkable, immeasurable, unspeakable, unspeakably unspeakable and untold each of which is fourth power the last

All the numbers mentioned here were actually assigned finite values in the same sutra, so this is very out of context and misleading.

Idk why people pretend transfinite numbers existed during those times and that's definitely what these statements are talking about when they clearly don't.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

All the numbers mentioned here were actually assigned finite values in the same sutra, so this is very out of context and misleading.

Idk why people pretend transfinite numbers existed during those times and that's definitely what these statements are talking about when they clearly don't.

Its just an example. also You are wrong here fellow.

 

[Darksmash]

Its just an example. also You are wrong here fellow.

Its a wrong example, in that case.

Also mind pointing out what I am wrong about and which portion of that article corrects me?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Its a wrong example, in that case.

Also mind pointing out what I am wrong about and which portion of that article corrects me?

It corrects your idealistic misunderstanding about the existence of transfinite numbers in the ancient past.

 

[Darksmash]

It corrects your idealistic misunderstanding about the existence of transfinite numbers in the ancient past.

Where?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Where?

The Indians had a passion for large numbers. For example, in texts belonging to the Vedic literature, we find individual Sanskrit names for each of the powers of 10 up to a trillion and even 1062. (Even today, the words 'lakh' and 'crore', referring to 100,000 and 10,000,000, respectively, are in common use among English-speaking Indians.) One of these Vedic texts, the Yajur Veda, even discusses the concept of numeric infinity (purna "fullness"), stating that if you subtract purna from purna, you are still left with purna.

The Lalitavistara Sutra (a Mahayana Buddhist work) recounts a contest including writing, arithmetic, wrestling and archery, in which the Buddha was pitted against the great mathematician Arjuna and showed off his numerical skills by citing the names of the powers of ten up to 1 'tallakshana', which equals 10^53, but then going on to explain that this is just one of a series of counting systems that can be expanded geometrically. The last number at which he arrived after going through nine successive counting systems was 10^421, that is, a 1 followed by 421 zeros.

There is also an analogous system of Sanskrit terms for fractional numbers, capable of dealing with both very large and very small numbers.

Larger number in Buddhism works up to nirabhilapya nirabhilapya parivarta(Bukeshuo bukeshuo zhuan 不可說不可說轉) {\displaystyle 10^{7\times 2^{122}}}

or 10^37218383881977644441306597687849648128, which appeared as Bodhisattva's maths in the Avataṃsaka Sūtra.,[1][2] though chapter 30 (the Asamkyeyas) in Thomas Cleary's translation of it we find the definition of the number "untold" as exactly 10^10*2122, expanded in the 2nd verses to 104*5*2121 and continuing a similar expansion indeterminately.

A few large numbers used in India by about 5th century BC (See Georges Ifrah: A Universal History of Numbers, pp 422–423):

• lakṣá (लक्ष) —10^5
• kōṭi (कोटि) —10^7
• ayuta (अयुत) —10^9
• niyuta (नियुत) —10^13
• pakoti (पकोटि) —10^14
• vivara (विवारा) —10^15
• kshobhya (क्षोभ्या) —10^17
• vivaha (विवाहा) —10^19
• kotippakoti (कोटिपकोटी) —10^21
• bahula (बहुल) —10^23
• nagabala (नागाबाला) —10^25
• nahuta (नाहूटा) —10^28
• titlambha (तीतलम्भा) —10^29
• vyavasthanapajnapati (व्यवस्थानापज्नापति) —10^31
• hetuhila (हेतुहीला) —10^33
• ninnahuta (निन्नाहुता) —10^35
• hetvindriya (हेत्विन्द्रिय) —10^37
• samaptalambha (समाप्तलम्भ) —10^39
• gananagati (गनानागती) —10^41
• akkhobini (अक्खोबिनि) —10^42
• niravadya (निरावाद्य) —10^43
• mudrabala (मुद्राबाला) —10^45
• sarvabala (सर्वबाला) —10^47
• bindu (बिंदु or बिन्दु) —10^49
• sarvajna (सर्वज्ञ) —10^51
• vibhutangama (विभुतन्गमा) —10^53
• abbuda (अब्बुद) —10^56
• nirabbuda (निर्बुद्ध) —10^63
• ahaha (अहाहा) —10^70
• ababa (अबाबा). —10^77
• atata (अटाटा) —10^84
• soganghika (सोगान्घीक) —10^91
• uppala (उप्पल) —10^98
• kumuda (कुमुद) —10^105
• pundarika (पुन्डरीक) —10^112
• paduma (पद्म) —10^119
• kathana (कथन) —10^126
• mahakathana (महाकथन) —10^133
• asaṃkhyeya (असंख्येय) —10^140
• dhvajagranishamani (ध्वजाग्रनिशमनी) —10^421
• bodhisattva (बोधिसत्व or बोधिसत्त) —10^37218383881977644441306597687849648128
• lalitavistarautra (ललितातुलनातारासूत्र) —10^200infinities
• matsya (मत्स्य) —10^600infinities
• kurma (कूर्म) —10^2000infinities
• varaha (वराह) —10^3600infinities
• narasimha (नरसिम्हा) —10^4800infinities
• vamana (वामन) —10^5800infinities
• parashurama (परशुराम) —10^6000infinities
• rama (राम) —10^6800infinities
• kalki (कल्कि) —10^8000infinities
• balarama (बलराम) —10^9800infinities
• dasavatara (दशावतार) —10^10000infinities
• bhagavatapurana (भागवतपुराण) —10^18000infinities
• avatamsakasutra (अवतांशकासूत्र) —10^30000infinities
• mahadeva (महादेव) —10^50000infinities
• prajapati (प्रजापति) —10^60000infinities
• jyotiba (ज्योतिबा) —10^80000infinities
• parvati (पार्वती) 10^20000000000infinities
• paro (पॅरो) 10^400000000000000000infinities

 

[Darksmash]

I mean sure, but that's just a poorly understood construction of "beyond infinity", especially since all of that actually doesn't even exceed Aleph Null. And multiplying infinity by finite numbers and pretending it's a higher infinity is kinda cringe anyway

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

I mean sure, but that's just a poorly understood construction of "beyond infinity", especially since all of that actually doesn't even exceed Aleph Null. And multiplying infinity by finite numbers and pretending it's a higher infinity is kinda cringe anyway

If that's your point, then you don't understand the concept of Cardinal and Aleph numbers. Take your time, and come back with a better arguement

Cardinal

View full site to see MathJax equation In set theory, the cardinal numbers (or just cardinals) are equivalence classes defined by the relation "there exists a bijection from set \(A\) onto set \(B\)". Whereas ordinal numbers may be thought of as "structures" of certain kinds of sets, cardinals...

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because 2 ^ countable înfinity is already Aleph one

 

[Darksmash]

because 2 ^ countable înfinity is already Aleph one

I already know that, however there is a massive difference between 2^(infinity) and 10^(big_finite_number)*infinity

If that's your point, then you don't understand the concept of Cardinal and Aleph numbers. Take your time, and come back with a better arguement

No need to be so smug about it, especially when you aren't even correct