Removed Lucifer morningstar DC's Stamina Infinite.

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All scans from Lucifer 69

When Yahweh's word stopped holding the pieces of creation together, Creation was going to collapse. So Lucifer along with some others, a physically grabbed the edges of the gate and pulled it across all of creation. And when they succeed, Elaine clearly states that Lucifer was drained this act.

The Stamina Infinite in his profile seemed a bit exaggerated.

 

[Robo432343]

also this

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Lucifer was weakened when he did this. Do people not read the story when they try to make a CRT or something?

 

[Robo432343]

Lucifer was weakened when he did this. Do people not read the story when they try to make a CRT or something?

thats why i sent the scan of lucifer saying he was tired
was he also weakened there??

 

[Robo432343]

also i am certain someone with infinite stamina cant be tired

 

[Deleted member 2530]

thats why i sent the scan of lucifer saying he was tired
was he also weakened there??

Are you joking or something? Do you not understand the difference between getting physically tired and being fed up with running Hell?

 

[Robo432343]

Are you joking or something? Do you not understand the difference between getting physically tired and being fed up with running Hell?

oh shit

 

[Robo432343]

i think the profile should say something like
infinite stamina with his wings

 

[Gasper]

Are you joking or something? Do you not understand the difference between getting physically tired and being fed up with running Hell?

He didnt said he is fed up with hell, he said he is tired.

Also, even if he was weakened in the scan OP posted, he can still get tired.

 

[Robo432343]

He didnt said he is fed up with hell, he said he is tired.

no that was when lucifer was still ruling hell and didnt wanna do it anymore

 

[Gasper]

no that was when lucifer was still ruling hell and didnt wanna do it anymore

He didnt wanna do it because he was tired.

 

[Robo432343]

He didnt wanna do it because he was tired.

yeah, not physically
its the same as, "im tired of evaluating these db cosmology threads"

 

[Deleted member 2530]

He didnt said he is fed up with hell, he said he is tired.

Do you need to be spoonfed everything?

 

[Robo432343]

Do you need to be spoonfed everything?

hey drop it

 

[ImmortalDread]

also this

Pretty sure it is metaphorical to say: I am tired of life.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Lucifer was weakened when he did this. Do people not read the story when they try to make a CRT or something?

Mind elaborating on how he was weakened?

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Mind elaborating on how he was weakened?

Traveling to Yggdrasil and fighting Michael had left him weakened.

 

[Xearsay]

Traveling to Yggdrasil and fighting Michael had left him weakened.

That happened in Lucifer(2000) #53 while the scan of Lucifer being drained from pulling the gate happened in Lucifer(2000) #69, which was a good amount of time after the whole Yggdrasil thing.

Unless you have scan that supports Lucifer’s stamina hadn’t recovered since the Yggdrasil trip, then you can’t really use that excuse.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

That happened in Lucifer(2000) #53 while the scan of Lucifer being drained from pulling the gate happened in Lucifer(2000) #69, which was a good amount of time after the whole Yggdrasil thing.

Unless you have scan that supports Lucifer’s stamina hadn’t recovered since the Yggdrasil trip, then you can’t really use that excuse.

Aside from Lucifer himself saying that he little amount of energy that he kept in reserve just an issue or two before this? Unless you have a scan saying that he had replenished his energy.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Aside from Lucifer himself saying that he little amount of energy that he kept in reserve just an issue or two before this? Unless you have a scan saying that he had replenished his energy.

Where?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Because the scan from Robo is literally metaphorical

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Tf are you talking about?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Tf are you talking about?

I am asking for the evidence ^

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Evidence of what?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Where?

??

 

[Deleted member 2530]

 

[ImmortalDread]

Where does it imply his stamina?

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Please actually write what you are seeking because we are seemingly not talking about the same thing.

 

[Robo432343]

I feel like there is a big ass misunderstanding here

 

[ImmortalDread]

His stamina is fine, so I disagree with the thread. I don't see any anti-feats yet.

 

[Xearsay]

Aside from Lucifer himself saying that he little amount of energy that he kept in reserve just an issue or two before this? Unless you have a scan saying that he had replenished his energy.

Lucifer never said that he had a “little amount of energy.”The Basanos daughter thought Lucifer was powerless during his fight against Fenris, and Lucifer said that he “reserved his power” because those previous situations were not life or death to him.

So no Lucifer’s energy was not weakened as that’s not said anywhere in the scan. And if anything, Lucifer had his powers when pulling the gate. He simply got exhausted or drained by the act, meaning his stamina isn’t infinite.

 

[Robo432343]

You can have infinite stamina and still be weakened
"although not necessarily allowing them to ignore crippling pain or fight on through critical injuries."
Look how weakened Lucifer was here

"That happened in Lucifer(2000) #53 while the scan of Lucifer being drained from pulling the gate happened in Lucifer(2000) #69, which was a good amount of time after the whole Yggdrasil thing."

lol? thats literally because the rest of the issues didnt show Lucifer after that incident
Not every chapter is going to show Lucifer

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I disagree, arguments have already been presented against it and the context seems to be different, I think Op had a misunderstanding when he created it, should this be closed?

 

[Xearsay]

lol? thats literally because the rest of the issues didnt show Lucifer after that incident
Not every chapter is going to show Lucifer

Wrong, Lucifer was shown in some of the issues between issues #53 and #69. Lucifer simply pretended to be powerless because he didn’t recognized situations like Fenris attacking him with the spear or the Basanos daughter attacking him as life or death. After Lucifer released his power to kill Fenris, in the following issue he helped pull the gate and then got exhausted. Which contradicts his stamina being infinite.

 

[Xearsay]

I disagree, arguments have already been presented against it and the context seems to be different, I think Op had a misunderstanding when he created it, should this be closed?

No. Point out where arguments have been made against the Op. As far as I’m aware, more than half this thread was spent arguing against some random scan posted by Robo and not the Op.

 

[Robo432343]

Wrong, Lucifer was shown in some of the issues between issues #53 and #69. Lucifer simply pretended to be powerless because he didn’t recognized situations like Fenris attacking him with the spear or the Basanos daughter attacking him as life or death.

wtf? they stopped showing Lucifer from 54 to 57. and in 57 he was still weakened with his fight with michael. After then lucifer recovers and then gets a massive beating by fenris. THEN they started pulling the gates all across creation
look at this shit

 

[Xearsay]

wtf? they stopped showing Lucifer from 54 to 57. and in 57 he was still weakened with his fight with michael. After then lucifer recovers and then gets a massive beating by fenris. THEN they started pulling the gates all across creation
look at this shit

Lucifer not being shown from Issue 54 to 57 is not the same as Lucifer not being shown from issue 53 to 69.

Also Lucifer’s receiving a beating by Fenris, shouldn’t have affected his stamina unless stated. So that’s not an excuse.

 

[Robo432343]

Lucifer not being shown from Issue 54 to 57 is not the same as Lucifer not being shown from issue 53 to 69.

ok-

Also Lucifer’s receiving a beating by Fenris, shouldn’t have affected his stamina unless stated. So that’s not an excuse.

cool. still doesn't change the fact that was massively weakened
a weakened lucifer crossed all of creation

 

[Xearsay]

ok-

cool. still doesn't change the fact that was massively weakened
a weakened lucifer crossed all of creation

No he wasn’t massively weakened. As you said he recovered since the Yggdrasil thing, reserved his power, and then pretended to be powerless up until the end of his fight with Fenris. Which is why he was getting beat like that by Fenris. So unless it’s stated anywhere that he was weakened after he reactivated his powers, we can’t just assume he was.

 

[Deagonx]

So the big counter-argument to his infinite stamina is Elaine's lone observation that Lucifer "seems drained?" How one seems affected by their exertion isn't particularly relevant to stamina, it's just a matter of whether they can continue to push through if needed. I don't see this as being significant enough to warrant a downgrade.