Georredannea15
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I think it's not good to talk Low 1-C right now. Low 1-C can be discussed extensively if 2-A is accepted.
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Lucifer's Creation “infinite dimension”
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I'm going pretty sure 2-A is a commonly accepted knowledge. It's the exact same as Yahweh's Creation but it has dimensions/realms outside rather than the Afterlife.
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Yes, I agree with 2-A too. But I think it is more appropriate to open a different revision for Low 1-C.
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I agree with 2-A
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It's already 2-A. At this point to avoid any more confusion. Do you agree with the thread?
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Alright, it seems the mass majority agrees. Perhaps later I can make CRT for Low 1-C.
As of right now, I wanted to ask if this seems logical, sensible, and not contradictory to what we know of Lucifer.
As of right now, I wanted to ask if this seems logical, sensible, and not contradictory to what we know of Lucifer.
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Yes, this thread is fine. But are we going to use this feat as a justification for Low 1-C on his profile? Personally, i think Lucifer destroying the Logos would be a better Low 1-C feat
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Remember Lucifer isn't a baseline since his a lot stronger than the Endless who are also Low 1-C. Lucifer is more than capable of making a Low 1-C structure. His Creation might actually be larger than Yahweh. Unless we count “Heaven and Hell” as part of the Creation except there not part of the “order of created things.”
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This makes sense to me.
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That it has Infinite D. I said I wasn't arguing for a tier.
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It seems to be alternate dimensions within universe. If you're not arguing for a tier then what's the purpose of this thread though?
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If that's the case, then this thread can be closed.
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After a few more evaluations. This brings me to this case. Do you agree?
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I agree creation has infinite dimensions, but that doesn't really prove a single creation is 2-A since dimensions size need to be specified. (whether each of them are infinite)
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It may be due to wording but the thing is a Universe being infinite correlated to the same meaning as an infinite amount of Universes.
Mike Carey writes the Universe as a “whole” as the entire structure. From how it is written such as Night and Time let the Universe come then to say “every” variation of it. It could be implied it was an infinite Universe with the same repetition of infinity for quantity.
The realm outside these worlds would pertain to the same idea. The realms are beneath the physical space that the Universe is interconnected with. This makes sense because the Multiverse is a “multiplicity” of realms, worlds, and dimensions.
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All links have been revived.
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So far everyone has agreed.
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Lucifer Creation has infinite D and is 2-A by default. For now, that should be fine but some of us are mixed with his Creation being possibly Low 1-C.
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They agreed but this thread is going nowhere but to acknowledge that it does.
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With Elaine saying that Lucifer didn't create another world, I think Lucifer's cosmos contains only their physical universe.
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Also, realms, as beneath the worlds(universes) are realms of abstraction some unfinished and others growing like cancer.
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Either way, his creation most likely does have infinite dimensions.
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Are we sure this is Lucifer's cosmos? Elaine says that as she soars over the cosmos and moves from physical dimensions to abstractions, Lucifer does not create another world.
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She created two gateways one to expand from Yahweh to Lucifer. The other is to start from Lucife until everything meets together. It's implied she was flying at his Crestion, as he describes that the realms beneath the worlds are bigger and more “scary” and is the only world. Not every realm is an “afterlife.”
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Nothing. We can close it but given each gateway is infinite and as Lucifer tells us splitting infinity does not make it any smaller. Then the conclusion is each Universe scales to Low 2-C, or at the very least High 3-A. Over the many years I’ve read DC, Vertigo Universe in general seem bigger or about the same as a each singular Universe are infinite and not Superman scans of being finite. Also, each Universe is 4D which the requirement is larger than 3D:
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It's rather implied than directly mentioned. Lucifer told Uriel his father's gateway is infinite and thus splitting the gates does not make it any smaller.
He split space and time within the scope of infinity to each world(Universe) and realm (locations out of the worlds). We also know his Creation is infinite in distance and within that, it's infinite in size.
The amount and the size are correlated to being the same.
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