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Rematch of the Millennia - Novel Kars vs Yhwach

Standuser081 said:
Also, can you prove that Yhwach can erase all of Kars' 36 souls at once?
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Each arrow destroys a soul. Quincy have showned to fire thousands of arrows in a barrage.

Can Kars resist and come back from all of his souls been erase?
 
D4CU basically makes Kars unkillable, but at the same time how does Kars kill Yhwach? Seems inconclusive to me honestly. Just dudes that can't kill each other due to their manipulations.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
D4CU
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Parallel Universe Creation is useless as they are not consider real in his own verse.

Dimension Hopping can be used to escape which Will give Yhwach the win by BFR. If Yhwach gets BFR instead he has Shadow & Portal Creation to counter.

Merging is useless as well. Yhwach power can't be counter by Casuality Manipulation, and he has resistance to it.

Body Hopping can't happen if all his 37 souls are erase from existence.

Time Acceleration is the only useful one that needs Prep time, and Yhwach will kill him by then or become inmune to it by Almighty and Casuality resistance.

Universe Reset needs prep time and Yhwach isn't someone who likes to waste time in combat. He goes for the kill unless you are the main character of course.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
D4CU basically makes Kars unkillable, but at the same time how does Kars kill Yhwach? Seems inconclusive to me honestly. Just dudes that can't kill each other due to their manipulations.
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D4CU makes Kars unkillable? How?
 
D4CU and BtD are independent of Kars and can work even if Kars doesn't exist. BtD can rewind time to before Kars was killed, giving him time to counter Yhwach. And if Kars bites it, D4CU can simply go to any of the infinite different timelines to replace the current Kars.
 
Canon base Kars is easily capable of dodging barrages. This is a Kars who has had his body control exponentially multiplied with more skills and abilities. Those arrows aren't touching him.
 
Sir Ovens said:
D4CU and BtD are independent of Kars and can work even if Kars doesn't exist. BtD can rewind time to before Kars was killed, giving him time to counter Yhwach. And if Kars bites it, D4CU can simply go to any of the infinite different timelines to replace the current Kars.
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The fight is againts Kars once he is dead it counts as K.O. since OP didn't specify.
 
That's not how it works. Are you telling me if Lavos dies once and comes back it counts as defeat because it's a alternate version?
 
Yobobojojo said:
Merger sponges aren't causality mania tho
All these counter arguments are flawed
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It is since Yhwach won't be affect by changing the timeline. And since this hax is only Universal in range, Yhwach overpowers it since Reiatsu can negate hax.

How so? Explain in detail.
 
Yobobojojo said:
Canon base Kars is easily capable of dodging barrages. This is a Kars who has had his body control exponentially multiplied with more skills and abilities. Those arrows aren't touching him.
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He can't. He will be stuck to the ground like gloo see scan above.
 
It is since Yhwach won't be affect by changing the timeline. And since this hax is only Universal in range, Yhwach overpowers it since Reiatsu can negate hax.

How so? Explain in detail.

"Reiatsu can negate universal range hax"

What even?

Merger Sponge=/=Timeline change
 
He can't. He will be stuck to the ground like gloo see scan above.

Because I'm sure that Kars's body control has no way around that...
 
Yobobojojo said:
That's not how it works. Are you telling me if Lavos dies once and comes back it counts as defeat because it's a alternate version?
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They are not the characters that are fighting.
 
Yobobojojo said:
It says so on his profile, "overtime".
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Overtime=/=Prep
It is in a way. Kars will be dead by the time ir reaches that point. Since no one has shown any evidence of Kars been brought back from having his 37 souls erase from existence.
 
It's not about Kars's Souls tho. Even without them, BtD and D4CU can revive him since they don't need him to exist
 
Yobobojojo said:
It is since Yhwach won't be affect by changing the timeline. And since this hax is only Universal in range, Yhwach overpowers it since Reiatsu can negate hax.
How so? Explain in detail.
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"Reiatsu can negate universal range hax"
What even?

Merger Sponge=/=Timeline change

There is no universal hax. Only Universal range. Both Yhwach he will try to Merged will be above his power and they will negate the Merged hax with their reiatsu.
 
Yobobojojo said:
He can't. He will be stuck to the ground like gloo see scan above.
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Because I'm sure that Kars's body control has no way around that..
It really doesn't. Care to provide an example? Maybe It will change my perspective?
 
Burden of proof is on you to say Reiatsu can negate Kars' Abilities, assuming Kars hasn't already copied them from the beginning
 
Yobobojojo said:
It's not about Kars's Souls tho. Even without them, BtD and D4CU can revive him since they don't need him to exist
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Post scans of Kars been resurrected from Existence Erasure of his 37 souls?
 
Kars can literally twist his body into different animals. There's nothing stopping him from using body control to dodge, or heck, just using MiH to blitz and dodge
 
Post scans of Kars been resurrected from Existence Erasure of his 37 souls?

It doesn't matter since D4CU can exist without a soul or Kars.
 
Yobobojojo said:
Burden of proof is on you to say Reiatsu can negate Kars' Abilities, assuming Kars hasn't already copied them from the beginning
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Reiatsu negates abilities of weaker opponent is a inverse overall rule. I don't need to proof something so basic. Yhwach Almighty allows him to use his opponents abilities as his allies and negates everything he sees. So?
 
Yobobojojo said:
Kars can literally twist his body into different animals. There's nothing stopping him from using body control to dodge, or heck, just using MiH to blitz and dodge
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The problem is that he can lift himself from the ground. Not matter what shaped it take. Yhwach's horse is not inmune to it. He is not the target.
 
Yobobojojo said:
Post scans of Kars been resurrected from Existence Erasure of his 37 souls?
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It doesn't matter since D4CU can exist without a soul or Kars.
Still see no evidence of D4CU Existence where Kars has had his 37 souls erase from existence.
 
It's not about his 37 souls though. D4C can exist without the user or there soul being present. Him erasing 37 is still him just erasing all of them, which d4c can do
 
Yobobojojo said:
Kars proceeds to copy reiatsu if he sees it once
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Reiatsu is a physical force of the energy in the verse. People with or without reiatsu are threated the same. Copying it won't achieve anything.
 
Yobobojojo said:
He can also use his elemental intangibility, so there is that
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What type? Lille Barro uses "Light" Intangibility and follows Yhwach instead of leading if Yhwach couldn't kill someone with that kind of power.
 
What type? Lille Barro uses "Light" Intangibility and follows Yhwach instead of leading if Yhwach couldn't kill someone with that kind of power.

What?
 
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