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Reinhard Heydrich VS BB

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Reinhard's been downgraded to 5-B

This had to be done. So today, I'm doing the will of Chaos.

(Yes it's already been done, but that was when Reinhard was "at least small star level" and casually one-shot her)

Dies Irae (5-B) Heydrich VS lowball (5-B) BB

Type 8 Immortality is disabled.

BB is not allowed to use her past selves to kill Reinhard's non Ewigkeit-self because that is cheap af.

Everything else goes

In-character

Let's all remember that Reinhard actually enjoys fighting and is not going to pull out the spear first thing, and that him trying to create a situation where he would actually be challenged and forced to fight at full strength was his whole motivation in Dies Irae.

Speed Equalised
 
Obligatory "just for the sake of following" reply And you all just got safe from the Amakasu vs BB one, too.

Whew.
 
It was closed because Reinhard resists authority, which is a terrible reason to close a BB thread.

This is the last one I'm making for a while.
 
That was before the upgrades and without them it was an utter Hax stomp.

Also, now Kharn wins against Reinhard.
 
Neither Lord nor god have a place here. There is only the Monarch

And he's all out of mercy.
 
There's no way in hell BB is ever winning this.

Reinhard is Mercurius' Apotosis, meaning that he's backed by a 1-A entity. In addition, Mercurius created the magic system Rein uses through his own authority.

BB gets swarmed by the LDO and swats them aside, but once Kemono-dono is entranced and pulls out the spear, it's all over for her.
 
Oh yeah, type 8 immortality is disabled in case anyone thought it was up.

And what do you mean "backed by a 1-A"? Mercurius isn't helping in this fight.
 
Yea This is most definietly a stomp and I think should be closed. Reinhard is too much for the nasuverse ATM m8 plez be merciful

EDIT: he also has mid godly regen meaning he can come back from his existence being erased iirc so BB actually has no way of dealing with Goldie of Masadaverse
 
@Monarch

For the same reasons as the Kharn thread, BB's authority won't be working on Rein's abilities due to his weaponry and powers coming from something that's certainly higher than her in authority.

In addition, he's taken pretty much everything BB can dish out.
 
@Aizen Hardly. And Reinhard isn't going to pull out the spear until he's had his fight - and once he sees BB swatting aside the LDO, he's going to want that fight. He isn't going to see her killing his LDO and go "oh better kill her quickly", he's going to see her doing that and say "oh, this will be a fun fight, I don't want to end it immediately". Law and concept manipulation, as well as CCC can also prevent regen.

@Rep, even without her authority, she's still a force to be feared. At least she isn't having all of her abilities straight up negated by a Tier 1 this fight.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
@Aizen Hardly. And Reinhard isn't going to pull out the spear until he's had his fight - and once he sees BB swatting aside the LDO, he's going to want that fight. He isn't going to see her killing his LDO and go "oh better kill her quickly", he's going to see her doing that and say "oh, this will be a fun fight, I don't want to end it immediately"

@Rep, even without her authority, she's still a force to be feared.
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But we already know the result. Literally what can BB possibly do to win this?
 
@Monarch

It doesn't help that BB is effectively a spiritual entity, and everyone and their mother in the LDO has Soul Hax.
 
@Aizen, law manip, causality manip, concept manip, CCC destroying the reality he exists on (requiring High-Godly) are all things she can use to kill him.

@Rep, she has magic resistance though. She's also physically a lot more powerful, and unlike Reinhard, they would be affected by Authority.
 
@Monarch

Rein has resistance to all of these things. He also isn't stupid and knows if something can and will kill him. If he's to keep destroying, he'll have to survive, so the spear comes out and BB can't do anything about it.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Monarch
Rein has resistance to all of these things. He also isn't stupid and knows if something can and will kill him. If he's to keep destroying, he'll have to survive, so the spear comes out and BB can't do anything about it.
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Then vote Reinhard.

But this is hardly a stomp. I never want to read "Reinhard throws his spear GG"

Edit: Since when does he resist causality and law manip?
 
Ehhh I vote inconclusive for now. Need more input and as far as I understand it's who pulls out their trump card first
 
yeah going with the golden beast for Rep's reason authority resist and hax Rein can dish out is better
 
So, Reinhard enjoys fighting and doesn't go all out at the start, which is a huge problem. BB doesn't care about that, and will immediately go for the kill, using her best options.

1. Is Reinhard coming with LDO or does he need to summon them? How does this work?

2. BB knows every possibility and has that higher-dimensional view of the world. She will use everything at her disposal to put him down. Her Fate Manipulation is something he cannot deal with.

3. I am pretty sure coming back from C.C.C. requires High-Godly regen due to its effect of consuming reality as well as erasing existence. I also don't see him having resistance to Conceptual Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Matter Manipulation and Probability Manipulation, all very potent hax that can put him down and are a part of C.C.C.

4. We've seen she has really good Mind Manipulation, capable of creating illusions that even Gilgamesh, with everything at his disposal and overwhelming magic resistance, can't resist. This is a good addition, but C.C.C. is the primary ability she will use.

5. If her Authority doesn't work on someone, it only means that someone doesn't get stomped immediately. She still has the Golden Grail, which is a Power Nullification, and Domina Cornam, with which she has Law Manipulation. Also things Reinhard can't deal with.

Take into account that Reinhard's personality and BB's abilities. He is fighting against a character who wants to kill him from the moment this match starts and already knows everything he might do and everything that might happen. "He throws his spear gg" is useless if he doesn't do that first or doesn't get a chance to do so. A fight is not when you compare everything both characters can do and then decide who has better abilities. You have to predict how the fight will happen and having superior knowledge on your opponent is a major advantage. Personality is also a huge factor. Take Gilgamesh's fights on this page. Most of them come down to is he serious or not during the fight. Sometimes it's "If he's serious he stomps and if he's not serious he gets stomped.".
 
BB does not have attacks that require High-Godly to come back from. If she did she'd be at least Tier 2 for being able to destroy a plane of existence.
 
What he is saying about High Godly regen is something I suggested on another thread, that the "space consumed by CCC becomes imaginary space" as a "hole is bored in reality" and thus it actually destroys the piece of reality the character exists on as well as the character themselves
 
Able to regenerate even if your existence is erased and the reality you are within is destroyed.

"The space eroded by BB becomes imaginary space and a curse that consumes reality."

"She'd be at least tier 2"- war flashbacks of BB revision thread.


Nontheless, she can still use C.C.C. to do other things. Rewritting concepts, messing with causality etc. Buying herself enough time to rewrite everything needed to put him down forever.
 
High-Godly is regenerating from an entire plane of existence or reality being destroyed. If she has an attack that does that damage, then she's Tier 2. Destroying little pieces of reality or voiding some space-time into non-existence does not count as that.
 
What @Ryukama said, please stop using the C.C.C as having to need High-Godly to come back from, it's existence erasure therefore Mid-Godly to regenerate back

Also BB personality she is rarely serious and spends much of her time simply harassing her foes instead of finishing them off, so no she doesn't go for the win.

Mind Manipulation is useless considering Methuselah mind hax didn't do shit against Reinhard
 
She recreates entirety of the Far Side with C.C.C. if I remember correctly. Don't know the size of it, though.

>Rarely serious

>Willing to sacrifice herself just to kill Gilgamesh

Who came up with those weaknesses? Also, she was only casual because nothing they could do would stop her from reaching the Moon Cell as she knew that from the start. She was always careful near Gilgamesh. These weaknesses will have to be adjusted.
 
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