Huh? What're you talking about? The series itself doesn't depict or state he's resisting the TS, by powering up and showcasing his speed is literally alluding to him just being that fast. The ability isn't a generic timestop, it's some form of timetravel, and Goku is literally moving fast enough to catch him during this skip as we see on screen.
The evidence depicting it as a mere resistance is nigh zero, considering the several implications of this being a raw power feat.
The OP is using Kaioken as an example of this spontaneous resistance and I'm disagreeing with that logic, so it does matter. They said timeskip wouldn't work on Goku, because he knows he can already beat it as shown in a previous arc, nothing here depicts this as a resistance esp if the Kaioken feat isn't considered a resistance.
I don't see how the Kaio-ken matters when he's simply resistant to Time Skip in its entirety during their rematch
Hit has three time manipulation inhabitants
In the anime this is not used, only in the manga it is, I think it is confusing, where in the manga the skill has shown weaknesses.
Do you have any scans stating this? The scan in the OP only says the TS ability doesn't work on him anymore, as showcased in their fight with Kaioken, Goku has countered it and made it null against him. That statement doesn't inherently imply a resistance considering the context presented in an earlier arc.
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Can you show me his timestops? As far as I'm aware, his skip looks like a stop on screen but with the context presented to us it's made clear that he's actually traveling into the future, and iirc none of the other instances have been stated to be a timestop.
Well what proof is there Goku is stronger than Broly at that point? Broly seemed stronge even before the god bind
Bruh it’s already accepted as an resistance for Goku and he intercepted him in the middle of ts can we stop arguing things already accepted
He doesn't state he has some supernatural resistance towards it Marv, he claims it'll no longer work, something we know is true because a much weaker state has surpassed it. Nothing alludes to a resistance, but instead emphasizes on the fact that Goku has overcame this ability in general, which we already know.
That's still Reactive Evolution
Goku would not be able to take hits from a stronger than SSJG Broly in base or SSJ, while this could easily be wrote off as an outlier/contradiction, there's nothing alluding to it being stronger than SSG prior to him clearing powering up. Goku easily danced around his punches and even ate his punch after Broly trapped him, no damage at all, he wasn't even pushed back from it. And then he casually flips him. There's nothing alluding to Broly being superior to God at that point so let's not assume that's the case.
Something being accepted doesn't mean it's correct or not misinterpreted, so in regards to an upgrade the validity of said accepted concept can be questioned.
If he didn’t develop that mid battle with hit then it’s not RE, as it wasn’t developed in response to hit in that moment.
"Threats and adverse situations" is vague and umbrella for a reason. That isn't exclusive to "in the middle of a fight"
the logic is literally the same
yes, alternate timelines that never interacted, we can't assume anything without proof
i don't ignore feats, it is just that feats of power are not relevant here
you know you are discussing in said wiki and is as such meant to do things to the way things are handled here right?
night bro
第6宇宙の伝説の殺し屋。第7宇宙との格闘試合では、時間を止める技「時とばし」で悟空を窮地に追い込んだ。
What? It alludes to a resistance because he’s shown resisting it and in their second fight before Hit uses his hax Goku reminds him that his timeskip wont work on him and Hit confirms that to be true
There’s nothing alluding to Goku being stronger than Broly only in that instance either we see Goku turn Ssjg and dodge an attack and then go to god bind which traps Broly and then Broly eventually breaks out of this god bind and adapts by using it on him as well
That's because he has more than a single ability over time, I also have mention of him jumping to the future too, all those abilities are derived from time manipulation lol
Ik, but the scan states, specifically, that Hit was using the timestop to pressure Goku despite us knowing he's using his skip. I agree with the rest tho.
Goku is never shown "resisting it" in their second fight, Hit confirming it doesn't work clearly references Goku ability to catch Hit mid skip, which im contesting to not be a resistance but a speed/ap feat.
You're saying nothing I haven't said or you haven't said before, there's no proof of Broly being superior to Goku and vice versa, but the belief that this is anything other than Goku trapping him in his Ki is false. We even see that this bind is a psychical effect as Goku is clearly being pushed down as Broly pushes down on him.
True. I'll be doing that then.
How is it a speed/AP feat? You could argue that for the manga though the manga explains that the stronger the person is the slower the t.s is probably due to their speed but this is the anime stop using manga to argue anime Hit says that timeskip would be charitable compared to his new technique which Goku confirms wasn’t timeskip but Goku states timeskip outright won’t work on him anymore
The problem with this is Goku and Hit are relative to each other. And Hit at this point can use he's time-skip by touching you.
It says Re is similar to adaptation but they adapt and gain resistances as well I’m looking at what you said and what the page says and they don’t align at all could you copy and paste what part of the page you’re talking about?
Where does it say it needs a being to change? You can qualify for it via getting new resistances/haxes to battle abilities. Which is exactly what goku did.
Why would that mean a resistance when Hit knows that Goku has found ways around his Time-Skip before through predictions of his actions, and has even been intercepted in the midst of it?
Because it worked on Goku's all-out power by the end of their fight
No, it's really not. One can interpret it that way, but with the given prior context of their previous fight (where Goku originally had to play around it using predictions to attack Hit), it doesn't necessarily look that way.
How does that make it not decisive?
Hit improved his TS to the point Analytical prediction didn’t matter goku had to resist and literally intercepted hit in his ts Goku resisting the level hit had to adapt to to overcome ssjb kk x10 goku just means Goku has even more justification for RE
I have no idea either he literally said that they adapted to gain a resistance and said that it wasn’t RE that’s literally word for word what RE is being able to get stronger and gain resistances and new abilities via adapting to the situation
This is literally RE the only way this isn’t RE is if the resistances get removed
I agree with him having RE but if for some reason he doesn't get it should at least be covered in he's adaptation which is lacking in general because he's adapt to more than just gravity
