Minor DBS/Z/Toei CRT #1

[Naeem0304]

DBS Goku

• Goku should have Limited Power Nullification for copying Beerus' ki-negating ability. Funnily enough, the link for Goku's universal scaling mentioned it (credits to @AKM sama):

Goku knew about the collateral damage the shock waves were causing. That's why he was trying to perfect the nullification technique in the first 2 tries. Since it was not perfected during the first 2 punches, the residual energy which was not nullified in the clash, resulted in the generation of the shock waves. Still, thanks to this incomplete cushioning effect, Goku at least managed to reduce the intensity of these shock waves near him and protect the Earth and Solar System. But as the shock waves went further away, Goku's cushioning effect on them also decreased. And thus, it appeared to Elder Kai that the waves were growing stronger the further they went.

• Broly Arc/Tournament of Power Base Key should have Danmaku via Kamehameha Blaster.
• Goku should have Healing in his base Key as well (was capable of granting Frieza on Namek enough ki to allow him to float)
• Base Goku should get Electricity Manipulation (His strikes could create electrical discharges against Piccolo Jr. during the 23rd WT)
• Martial Arts should be added to Ultra Instinct Goku's Greater Accelerated Development (Ultra Instinct is a martial arts technique)

• Possible Mid Regeneration Negation for Demon King Piccolo-fight Goku and everything after (Could kill Demon King Piccolo, even though Namekians can regenerate if their head is intact) (This is refutable since Namekian's require stamina/power to regenerate)

Toei Goku/DBZ Goku

• Cell Saga Goku should have Sealing via Sealing Ability (Goku finds a sealing tag on the first planet he went to in "Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans")
• Cell Saga Goku should also have Vibration Manipulation (As shown at 0:18, Goku concentrated ki to cause the tree to vibrate)

• Most ki users should have Fire Manipulation (Ki can generate fire)
• Most ki users should also have Ectoplasmic Manipulation (Ki is described as spiritual energy, and Gotenks was able to create ghost clones)

Janemba

• According to Goku, Fat Janemba was "affecting every dimension in creation". I guess the only change from here is different wording on his range (instead of it being the entire afterlife, it'd now be the whole macrocosm.)

 

[CelestialVortex01]

pretty straightforward, I agree!

 

[Rutæhh]

I think healing should be energy restoration agree with rest

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Base Goku should get Electricity Manipulation (His strikes could create electrical discharges against Piccolo Jr. during the 23rd WT)

Visual flair. Impact.

Possible Mid Regeneration Negation for Demon King Piccolo-fight Goku and everything after (Could kill Demon King Piccolo, even though Namekians can regenerate if their head is intact) (This is refutable since Namekian's require stamina/power to regenerate)

He blew up.

Most ki users should have Fire Manipulation (Ki can generate fire)

Heat Generation.

Most ki users should also have Ectoplasmic Manipulation (Ki is described as spiritual energy, and Gotenks was able to create ghost clones)

Rejected. Numerous times before.

 

[Dominodalek]

Toei Goku/DBZ Goku

• Cell Saga Goku should have Sealing via Sealing Ability (Goku finds a sealing tag on the first planet he went to in "Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans"

I'm not sure I agree with giving Goku an optional one-off item from a game adaptation of a game. I don't know if we even consider it to be canon in the first place.

 

[StarShooter80]

Cell Saga Goku should also have Vibration Manipulation (As shown at 0:18, Goku concentrated ki to cause the tree to vibrate)

This is already covered on the Ki Manipulation page. This shouldn't be applied to DBZ Manga Goku

Most ki users should have Fire Manipulation (Ki can generate fire)

Looks more like heat generation. This should be added to the Ki manipulation page, this isn't something only Goku can do, heck the scan is literally Gohan doing this

Most ki users should also have Ectoplasmic Manipulation (Ki is described as spiritual energy

The first part seems more like holy manipulation?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I don't know if we even consider it to be canon in the first place.

We do indeed.

 

[TheTenno07]

About the ectoplasm manipulation, it was previously discussed even with Gotenks himself who could create ghosts, iirc it was accepted as limited manipulation, so I don't see any way to apply it only with this reasoning

 

[Naeem0304]

Looks more like heat generation. This should be added to the Ki manipulation page, this isn't something only Goku can do, heck the scan is literally Gohan doing this

To be fair, I put that as "most ki users" and not specifically Goku.

 

[Naeem0304]

Visual flair. Impact.

He blew up.

Heat Generation.

Rejected. Numerous times before.

Thank you for the analysis (I apologize for not seeing the rejection of Ectoplasmic Manipulation from elsewhere)

 

[Dominodalek]

We do indeed.

The OVA being canon doesn't mean the Playdia games are as well.

 

[AwkguyDB]

The OVA being canon doesn't mean the Playdia games are as well.

Some of the abilities on his page do come from the playdia game. It was discussed a while ago and I got approval for them when I made the thread.

The sealing was rejected prior because it was a one off ability.

 

[Dominodalek]

Some of the abilities on his page do come from the playdia game. It was discussed a while ago and I got approval for them when I made the thread.

Fair enough then, I'm not complaining.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Bump

 

[Gp972]

Agree and I think that healing should be for any ki user, if someone gives part of their ki to someone they can heal it and we have also already seen ki cauterize wounds due to heat (Goku healing in the manga of the granola saga and the black goku sword without leaving traces of blood)