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Quincy King vs Spartan Demigod: Yhwach vs Kratos REMATCH (GRACE)

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Also, speaking generally. How often does Yhwach actually use his Sternritter stuff? Like, in canon does he spam them or has he used them liberally? I've heard many conflicting accounts on this.
 
Yhwach's 4D Fate Manipulation does not have any layers.
Yhwach absorbed Mimihagi's 4D Precognition Resistance and got 4D Precognition resistance.

Yhwach absorbed sternritter abilities but He never used sternritter abilities So at best possibility If Almighty doesn't work, Yhwach use sternritter abilities.

Even in one of the infinite futures, If Yhwach sees time stop, time stopping won't work.

Which abilities of Kratos are passive or thought based?
What does Kratos start battle with and how does it continue?
 
CodeCCLL said:
Yhwach's 4D Fate Manipulation does not have any layers.
Yhwach absorbed Mimihagi's 4D Precognition Resistance and got 4D Precognition resistance.
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Huh. If this is true then this makes things easier. And harder.
CodeCCLL said:
Yhwach absorbed sternritter abilities but He never used sternritter abilities So at best possibility If Almighty doesn't work, Yhwach use sternritter abilities.
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So, even with the ability to see infinite futures, he's never used them?
CodeCCLL said:
Even in one of the infinite futures, If Yhwach sees time stop, time stopping won't work.
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Good thing Kratos resists both Fate Manipulation and Power Nullification to a 4-D degree.
CodeCCLL said:
Which abilities of Kratos are passive or thought based?
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He doesn't have passives. The Amulet is used with gestures but based on Castor and Pollux, he can use it via thought as well. Same with some of his magics like, Poseidon's and Hades' gifts.
CodeCCLL said:
What does Kratos start battle with and how does it continue?
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He'll use whatever tools he feels are needed for the job, be it melee or otherwise He's shown to liberally use magics and the Amulet of Urobouros in fights though, with Zeus' Fury nullifying powers, Poseidon's Rage or deconstructing the target's mind, body, soul and concept, Soul and Army of Hades transmuting the mind/body/soul/concept and stripping them of their powers etc. Since he has Information analysis, he'd likely use the best means in his arsenal to fit Yhwach's abilities and power.
 
Planck69 said:
So, even with the ability to see infinite futures, he's never used them?
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Yhwach never used sternritter abilities. There is a special case, but it is absolutely not important here.
Planck69 said:
He doesn't have passives. The Amulet is used with gestures but based on Castor and Pollux, he can use it via thought as well. Same with some of his magics like, Poseidon's and Hades' gifts.
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Alright, What do these abilities do?
 
CodeCCLL said:
Alright, What do these abilities do?
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The Amulet is blanket Time Manipulation. Rewind, accelerate, slow, stop etc. It's described as "shaping Time itself". It also gives precognition and retrocognition, clairvoyance on a target's weaknesses, energy blasts and statistics reduction.

Army of Hades summons souls to devour targets but I think Yhwach can handle this. Soul of Hades blasts targets' souls with the higher-dimensional energy of the Underworld, which includes their mind and concept. He can also create portals with arms that drag victims to the Underworld, another space-time continuum, but this isn't thought-based.

Poseidon's Rage creates a blast of lightning around him that deconstructs targets in body and soul, which in-verse includes their mind and concept.


There's a lot more but they aren't though-based.
 
Planck69 said:
The Amulet is blanket Time Manipulation. Rewind, accelerate, slow, stop etc. It's described as "shaping Time itself". It also gives precognition and retrocognition, clairvoyance on a target's weaknesses, energy blasts and statistics reduction.
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Causality Manip as well.
 
Planck69 said:
The Amulet is blanket Time Manipulation. Rewind, accelerate, slow, stop etc. It's described as "shaping Time itself".
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Time stop makes Yhwach unable to use any of his abilities, including 4D Absorption.
Planck69 said:
Soul of Hades blasts targets' souls with the higher-dimensional energy of the Underworld, which includes their mind and concept. He can also create portals with arms that drag victims to the Underworld, another space-time continuum, but this isn't thought-based.
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Yhwach cannot do anything against this haxs in stopped time.

I vote for Kratos.
 
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Kratos FRA. His hax and hax resistance be a wee bit too much for Mustache-Man to handle this time it seems.
 
Peak said:
Who won the match with both in the stronger version?
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Hope Kratos would decimate. Layered CM Type 1, Conceptual Invulnerability, Advanced NPI that can **** over even HDE (Higher-Dimensional Existence) Ascended Athena (who exists above and beyond the Greek Pantheon and all its 4D realms and 4D HDE beings like Primordials), Immortality Types 4 and 8 added on top, Immortality Negation for all immortalities save for Type 9, and all of his previous resistances from Demigod to GoW amplified to kingdom come.
 
I guess Kratos FRA, Kratos just seems to resist all of Yhwach's normal hax's while he can affect Yhwach with basically all of his hax's.

Bloodlusted Yhwach however, i definitely see him winning but in-character, he just doesn't use the Sternritter Schrifts, which sucks but it is what it is.

Prime Soul King solos after revisions though.
 
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