Qrow Branwen vs Kyoko Sakura

[Akreious]

So I'm fairly sure Qrow won now. Also can't you still do that?

 

[Kaltias]

It's 7-6 actually.

It was more "how I realized only now"

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

If Qrow does in fact have 25+ years of exp, this would mean that he was training since he was a kid (not even a teen lol), which sounds ridiculous to me.

I also don't know how Qrow's sword's size is going to help against Kyoko's clones. Unless you say that his bad luck takes care of that, he won't break her Soul Gem.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

kyo fra

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Tbh most of the points for Qrow revolve around assumptions, while arguments for Kyoko seem pretty much solid to me

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Technically speaking, yes, Qrow would have been training since he was a kid, just not formally, due to being part of a bandit tribe for all of his early life before he went to Beacon

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Technically speaking, yes, Qrow would have bee training since he was a kid, just not formally, due to being part of a bandit tribe for all of his early life before he went to Beaco

Again, you're just assuming things which we don't know.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Okay, let me rephrase that. Qrow has been training since he was a child.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Okay, let me rephrase that. Qrow has been training since he was a child.

Then can you give me the scans of that? Unfortunately I dropped RWBY after Vol. 4, so I don't have a clear image of things

 

[Akreious]

Educated Assumptions are fine. Don't make it sound like all assumptions are bad, period. Qrow and Raven were born and raised in a bandit tribe known for murder. They were trained enough to be able to go into the Huntsman Academy despite no indication of going to RWBY's equivalent of lesser school (Ex. signal Academy) and Qrow and Raven was still good enough to get the notice of Ozpin, enough that they get bird powers. So yes, via educated guesses, Qrow and Raven would've been training at least when they were children.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Akr pretty much summed it up but i can get video clips as further proof if you'd like

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Okay, maybe I'll take it as an argument. What I was saying is that it would have been better if it was confirmed that they were trained since their childhood, not that the argument is invalid cause it's an assumption

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because its passive and it causes bad luck to anyone around him

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I still think that Qrow is slightly superior to Kyoko in combat skill at best.

 

[Akreious]

What does Kyoko have that puts her up to Qrow's level of experience? He's placed as one of the top-tier threats by Salem and is cited to be one of the few people in the world that's actually a viable threat to her. His physical abilities, while high, isn't really anything special and besides his semblance really has nothing else going for him. So why would she consider Qrow such a viable threat? Because of the sheer amount of sh8t he's seen and been through.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Kyoko did beat False Sayaka, who is superior than her in every aspect, has helps from dozen of this thing and possess timestop ability.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I mean, I could say that she was trained by Mami, but I don't know to what extent she's skilled because I watched only TV series and Rebellion movie, so I'll leave this up to other PMMM experts.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Age and experience are little matter here since Qrow has never face the same kind of thing that Kyoko faced.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Oh, Salem is a threat to Remnant?

AoC is a threat to the entire Multiverse. Qrow has never face that kind of shit before.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Please show a scan of Kyoko facing the 2-A AoC

 

[Akreious]

Qrow's faced possession based monsters, huge monsters, Zerg-rush monsters, other Huntsman, done reconnaissance, but that's besides the point. The only experience here that matters is against other humans, which Qrow is skilled with via the virtue of literally being trained by murderers as a child and fighting other Huntsman (or Huntsman level people).

Also I just remembered Qrow has a gun. That's another potential way to get a potshot off on Kyoko.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Qrow for Weekly's reasons.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Never said she has fight AoC heads on, alone fighting a 2-A, but she faced a whole event that could endanger the entire Multiverse.

And False Sayaka has nearly all of AoC power. Unless Qrow has dealed with someone who is superior than you in every aspect and can stop time before. I would say Kyoko is more skilled than him

 

[Kaltias]

Kyoko never fought 2-A AoC (no one did) and she was stomped by Low 5-B AoC.

She does however have training from someone who is honestly leagues above Qrow (and most if not all of RWBY) in the skill department. And Mami even noted that Kyoko was learning extremely fast and that the only thing where she still needed a lot of work was healing magic (which she managed to learn later on).

I probably got ninja'd extremely hard but my connection isn't working today.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Sux to be you Kal, I'm way ahead of ya.

 

[Akreious]

this is more of a stretch, but Time Dialation does exist in RWBY so Qrow might've fought someone akin to Timestop. Although that's just a guess, take it or leave it .

Well two of Qrow's solo fights has Qrow trolling a trained military Huntsman whilst drunk, so not really applicable, and fighting Tyrian who is one of Salem's most trusted (like him with Ozpin!) And is equal in just about everything. We can't say squat about Tyrian's skill as we have no idea what his backstory is. And Hazel.... well, let me put it to you this way. What does skill matter when you literally cannot even penetrate the opponent's skin with a full strength slash? This isn't "I'm better than you in every way", it's "YOU LITERALLY CANNOT HURT ME THATS WORTH A DAMN"

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

So he never faced the same kind of shit like Kyoko? Yeah, I'm more convinced now. (Even though I already watch all RWBY episodes myself).

All those people that Qrow fought, won't last long against even the weakest duplicates of AoC.

 

[RKGenki]

Actually, his probability manipulation is hardly a factor here, kyoko already fought a rumor in magia record that does the same thing but way stronger and faster, like boulders appearing above you or tripping over your own feet when you try to get near him and it makes you fail almost all of your attacks, so it's nothing new to her

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Also, Qrow superior AP, Dura and Aura are the things that keeping him from getting demolished by Kyoko here.

 

[Akreious]

Question. I know the outmatched thing is in her magical girl form, but I somehow doubt that a lot of what you're saying applies to this Kyoko (I assume the first key one?)

Still though, doesn't really change the fact that Qrow can very reliably kill dupe Kyokos in rapid succession and a strike at her gem (which will inevitably happen either via Qrow doing a dissection, blasting her general chest area with his gun or turning her into mince pie once a decap doesn't work) and Kyoko can very well be tripping up at her most crucial moments due to Qrow's semblance. In his fight against Tyrian, it took effect at least 3 major times. (Also her initial confusion once he turns into a bird can offer another chance. "WTF WHERE IS HE, IS THAT HIM?! IS HE A BIRD?!". Heh, I like that scenario. It's funny)

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I'm really tempted in pairing him against Yachiyo Nanami.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

@Akr

RK's post covered the stuff about Qrow's semblance stuff tho

 

[RKGenki]

That kyoko has nothing that make her different to this one, she just got in kamihama at that point and didn't get boosted or anything, so while at least you can say she hasn't fought something like that at this point, she's able to

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It being nothing new to her doesnt mean its not going to affect her

 

[RKGenki]

But won't be a factor, the rumor's is way stronger and she still pulled it off, so a weaker version won't be too much of a problem

 

[RKGenki]

I'm really tempted in pairing him against Yachiyo Nanami.

That's unfair ovo

Fate manipulation that makes you live and everyone around you die no matter what is broken (and i love it ovo)

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Yeah no, I don't doubt he can take out 2 or 3 of her clones, but Kyoko can just created it again, and again, and again. Also, Kyoko has faced some weird ***** on daily basis, what makes you think it would surprise her when she saw him turning into a bird?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

But won't be a factor, the rumor's is way stronger and she still pulled it off, so a weaker version won't be too much of a problem

How so?

 

[Akreious]

Qrow is almost 3x more stronger IIRC. I'm not sure about the threshold to 1-shot but he's fairly close to it. Also I'm fairly sure it was pointed out that she doesn't lead with dupe, nor spams it. So I don't really see where you're getting with "creating over and over and over".

 

[RKGenki]

But won't be a factor, the rumor's is way stronger and she still pulled it off, so a weaker version won't be too much of a problem

How so?

The rumor's probability manipulation won't even let you get near him in the first place

They defeated it by throwing back to him one of the boulders after repeated attempts