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He doesnt need to know about the gem, Kyoko just needs to be unlucky and get hit there, which is boud to happen due to his semblance literally being a pasive effect that happens at all times
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Qrow Branwen vs Kyoko Sakura
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When he's continuously being spammed by clones repeatedly, said clones having the same stats, that's kinda stretching saying minor probability Manipulation will guarantee he wins.
When he's continuously being spammed by clones repeatedly, said clones having the same stats, that's kinda stretching saying minor probability Manipulation will guarantee he wins.
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His semblance is ALWAYS on. Literally every time it "obviously" has an effect, it changes the tide of battle and has major impacts. You really think a chunk of a building almost falling on Ruby right as she gets into the perfect position to be crushed is NORMAL? It's just you vastly underestimate how effective his semblance actually is.
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I wonder why is his semblance listed as Probability manip anyway.
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Qrow's Semblance is useful here, yes. But really, it's not that good. It takes time and it doesn't do much other than minor stuff.
I can buy the Semblance making Kyoko mess up a dodge or something. But it isn't a force that guide his hands.
It helps him countering the fact that he is fighting someone who is fully conscious about how important the SG is while he doesn't know it. But Kyoko battled people who knew about it and survived, so that "unlucky hit" is going to need work on his part too
I can buy the Semblance making Kyoko mess up a dodge or something. But it isn't a force that guide his hands.
It helps him countering the fact that he is fighting someone who is fully conscious about how important the SG is while he doesn't know it. But Kyoko battled people who knew about it and survived, so that "unlucky hit" is going to need work on his part too
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@Gargoyle It kicked in a few seconds after Ruby started helping him fight Tyrian and as a result Ruby was almost crushed to death
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There is a huge difference between something falling on someone and literally giving you a guaranteed win on the fight eventually.Akreious said:
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Right, and comparing that to being swarmed by 7 Kyoko's with zero knowledge how to kill the person spamming is not at all comparable.WeeklyBattles said:
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TBH it really should be changed to straight probability manipulation, it was called minor because its passive
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By comparison to hitting a specific part of a person he has no knowledge about, yes.
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Right, and comparing that to being swarmed by 7 Kyoko's with zero knowledge how to kill the person spamming is not at all comparable.
He's more than used to being swarmed (courtesy of fighting death monsters everyday) and he's STILL more than twice as strong as those 7 Kyokos. He was fighting someone on par if not even more deadly than Qrow himself and his semblance STILL had a major effect on the battle really quickly.
Edit: and wasn't it just said that it isn't IC that Kyoko straight spams her dupes?
He's more than used to being swarmed (courtesy of fighting death monsters everyday) and he's STILL more than twice as strong as those 7 Kyokos. He was fighting someone on par if not even more deadly than Qrow himself and his semblance STILL had a major effect on the battle really quickly.
Edit: and wasn't it just said that it isn't IC that Kyoko straight spams her dupes?
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Yeah, i'm calling that minor. Because you guys are acting as if its only a matter of time until he wins.
Was Qrow only landing blows on vital spots against Tyrian? Because that would be the equivalent here
Also, Qrow never fought seven 7-B Grimms at once. Kyoko is weaker yeah, but don't compare her to tier 8 fodder
Was Qrow only landing blows on vital spots against Tyrian? Because that would be the equivalent here
Also, Qrow never fought seven 7-B Grimms at once. Kyoko is weaker yeah, but don't compare her to tier 8 fodder
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Unless Qrow is like Simon or Anti-Spiral, his semblance isn't going to save him here.
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No
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Considering his semblance lead to Tyrian's tail getting cut off, yes to an extent
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Right, and comparing that to being swarmed by 7 Kyoko's with zero knowledge how to kill the person spamming is not at all comparable.
He's more than used to being swarmed (courtesy of fighting death monsters everyday) and he's STILL more than twice as strong as those 7 Kyokos. He was fighting someone on par if not even more deadly than Qrow himself and his semblance STILL had a major effect on the battle really quickly.
Edit: and wasn't it just said that it isn't IC that Kyoko straight spams her dupes?
If you're seriously comparing Grimm's to Kyoko, Imma have to say that's bullshit.
He's more than used to being swarmed (courtesy of fighting death monsters everyday) and he's STILL more than twice as strong as those 7 Kyokos. He was fighting someone on par if not even more deadly than Qrow himself and his semblance STILL had a major effect on the battle really quickly.
Edit: and wasn't it just said that it isn't IC that Kyoko straight spams her dupes?
If you're seriously comparing Grimm's to Kyoko, Imma have to say that's bullshit.
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Qrow:
-Better fighter
-More Experience
-MUCH stronger (like can she even properly block him?)
-Badluck
Kyoko:
-WAY more versatile
-Annoying gem
-Duplication (wtf she died in the anime and STILL didn't use them.....)
Negatives for both:
-Seriously when Kyoko was in her most life threatening situation she still didn't use clones.....(haven't read the manga)
-Qrow's bad luck is more of a plot device and is particularly hard for us to gauge (Qrow vs Winter, Ironwood showing up was the only badluck tbere).
Other notes
-Qrow is naturally much more durable than Kyoko because of the 2.5x gap, but now add aura that she has to get through. She has to chip away at that for quite a bit before actually through to him considering she's weaker but a very noticeable extent.
-Having 7 clones of herself means 7x the effect of his badluck since it will affecting every single one. Keep that in mind people
-Better fighter
-More Experience
-MUCH stronger (like can she even properly block him?)
-Badluck
Kyoko:
-WAY more versatile
-Annoying gem
-Duplication (wtf she died in the anime and STILL didn't use them.....)
Negatives for both:
-Seriously when Kyoko was in her most life threatening situation she still didn't use clones.....(haven't read the manga)
-Qrow's bad luck is more of a plot device and is particularly hard for us to gauge (Qrow vs Winter, Ironwood showing up was the only badluck tbere).
Other notes
-Qrow is naturally much more durable than Kyoko because of the 2.5x gap, but now add aura that she has to get through. She has to chip away at that for quite a bit before actually through to him considering she's weaker but a very noticeable extent.
-Having 7 clones of herself means 7x the effect of his badluck since it will affecting every single one. Keep that in mind people
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-Having 7 clones of herself means 7x the effect of his badluck
Okay where and when was it stated it worked like that?
Okay where and when was it stated it worked like that?
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Because there's more people for his bad luck to affect, its literally the reason that he only does solo missions in remote areas, because the more people that are around him, the more chances that bad luck will happen to them
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That doesn't mean it stacks tho, that means he brings them all misfortune
Plus, it's one person that's controlling other clones, so how does that work?
Plus, it's one person that's controlling other clones, so how does that work?
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Yeah, its 7 people he can bring misfortune to instead of just one
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Further decreasing the chances of him getting a lucky strike if those clones don't happen to be around.
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Why would she tho.
When she herself is experienced enough to keep up with him and still needs to hit a specific Gem
When she herself is experienced enough to keep up with him and still needs to hit a specific Gem
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Age does not equate to experience, hell she was trained by someone arguably more skilled then Qrow.
The gem is above her chest and it's visually just a gen, no reason Qrow would strike there instead of the chest or head.
The gem is above her chest and it's visually just a gen, no reason Qrow would strike there instead of the chest or head.
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Okay one, Qrow's one of the most dangerous and experienced Hunters in RWBY. Stop saying "Age does not equate to experience" when Qrow has been out in the field and fighting death monsters as a job. Besides Ozpin and like-powered people, Qrow is considered one of the only "real" threats against Salem which only adds to Qrow's credibility.
Also, bladed strikes from RWBY characters against unshielded or weaker opponents usually lead to them cutting right through. And Qrow's sword is HUGE! And you think after the first time where she gets decap'd, Qrow wouldn't then try to turn her into mincemeat instead? Which would definitely hit the gem?
Also, bladed strikes from RWBY characters against unshielded or weaker opponents usually lead to them cutting right through. And Qrow's sword is HUGE! And you think after the first time where she gets decap'd, Qrow wouldn't then try to turn her into mincemeat instead? Which would definitely hit the gem?
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"Fighting Death Monsters as a job"
Not a particularly impressive feat when said Death Monsters are incredibly below you and not even a threat.
"Qrow's sword is HUGE"
Kyoko's spear laughs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMLbhDdFJ6U
"After the first time she gets decap'd"
If he can, again, get past 6 of her clones that are just as hard to kill as her with again, no knowledge of the gem.
And if he does, why would he turn her into Mincemeat? And why would that make him strike the gem and not her body?
Not a particularly impressive feat when said Death Monsters are incredibly below you and not even a threat.
"Qrow's sword is HUGE"
Kyoko's spear laughs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMLbhDdFJ6U
"After the first time she gets decap'd"
If he can, again, get past 6 of her clones that are just as hard to kill as her with again, no knowledge of the gem.
And if he does, why would he turn her into Mincemeat? And why would that make him strike the gem and not her body?
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"If he can, again, get past 6 of her clones that are just as hard to kill as her with again, no knowledge of the gem." The clones won't be hard to deal with at all man.... Qrow is more than twice as powerful and has durability comparable if not greater than his own AP.
And what else would he do? If a decapitation won't work, turn her into human salsa. And.... Seriously? So striking multiple times to turn your opponent into a bunch of pieces, you think not ONCE would Qrow hit the gem? Not once? When the gem is only slightly above the center of the body, where it'd be one of the largest target to start with first?
And what else would he do? If a decapitation won't work, turn her into human salsa. And.... Seriously? So striking multiple times to turn your opponent into a bunch of pieces, you think not ONCE would Qrow hit the gem? Not once? When the gem is only slightly above the center of the body, where it'd be one of the largest target to start with first?
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Cool, he still has to get past their soul gems, and their regen, while simultaneously fighting off other Kyoko's because you assume the clones are weaker then Kyoko herself which is false.
Okay, he knocks one out, attempts to turn it into Mincemeat, completely ignoring the other clones that want to kill him why would he want to strike the gem and not the body itself? Assuming he wants to turn a human body to Mincemeat which, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
Now he strikes one, doesn't know about the gen, and has zero time to kill one before it regens due to being pounced by the others.
Okay, he knocks one out, attempts to turn it into Mincemeat, completely ignoring the other clones that want to kill him why would he want to strike the gem and not the body itself? Assuming he wants to turn a human body to Mincemeat which, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
Now he strikes one, doesn't know about the gen, and has zero time to kill one before it regens due to being pounced by the others.
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Her gem is kinda in a REALLY vulnerable spot, its really not hard to believe Qrow would hit it just from attacking her nrmally without actually aiming for it
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Now multiply that with multiple other clones he needs to fight, alongside her, all with the same gem, and we have an issue.
Again, no knowledge of the gem.
Again, no knowledge of the gem.
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And then factor in that its not in character for her to lead with duplication and, from what im reading, not even in character for her to use when she's in danger, and its an issue for HER
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Sure, she doesn't lead, she uses them when necessary, which is like...Instantly, considering who she's fighting.
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From what ive seen and no one has disputed yet, even when her life is in danger she hasnt used it
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No offense to the people above intended truthfully, I'll take the guy who was one of the leading people in Madoka Magica's revisions and knows the show Manga and other things Madoka Magica related like the back of his hand's word first, plus, seeing the show myself, there was never a time where her life was in danger, the only time it was being against a friend of hers she wasn't trying to kill.
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Then ask him
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