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Puck vs Salem
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Salem, for better Immortality and thousands of years of experience.
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Does Salem resist passive absolute zero hax?
I am assuming Puck is in his Beast of the End form, which passively freezes everything around him at absolute zero.
I am assuming Puck is in his Beast of the End form, which passively freezes everything around him at absolute zero.
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She would regenerate from it unless said hax is stronger than the God of Light
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She would just keep getting shaterred under her own weight and regenerating over and over then.
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What is the range of Puck's AZ?
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Should be kilometers, basically in this form he needs an incredible amount of mana to stay in it, so he forcibly drains it from his surroundings just by being in the form, causing everything to freeze at absolute zero.
Just entering in it causes a snow storm, overtime the range of it increases until an unknown amount of time later it freezes the world, or at the very least cities hundreds of kilometers away, cause it's debatable whether he could actually freeze the whole world without someone taking him out, base Reinhard is stronger than him and there are like 3 ppl in other countries comparable to Reinhard.
We need a visualization of the damage Puck did to confirm either way, season 2 should gives us that.
Just entering in it causes a snow storm, overtime the range of it increases until an unknown amount of time later it freezes the world, or at the very least cities hundreds of kilometers away, cause it's debatable whether he could actually freeze the whole world without someone taking him out, base Reinhard is stronger than him and there are like 3 ppl in other countries comparable to Reinhard.
We need a visualization of the damage Puck did to confirm either way, season 2 should gives us that.
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Then this would be an inconclusive, Salem just keeps regenerating and Puck just keeps freezing her
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Im unsure if Grimm's vote can be considered legit since neither of the reasons he gave will actually allow her to do anything due to Puck's passive
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Also voting inconclusive.
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Looking at the reasons above, may I change my vote to inconclusive?
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Yes you can
I thought AZ didn't ignore Durability anymore though?
I thought AZ didn't ignore Durability anymore though?
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Still does however the distinction is sending an attack of ice that IS at absolute zero temperature meaning it isn't going to ignore durability as opposed to an attack that lowers temperature to absolute zero.Schnee One said:
That was the distinction from that thread way back.
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Question, the freezing is passive? Does it consumes stamina or something? Can it be maintained for long?
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Celestial Pegasus said:
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It's passive.
Doesn't really have anything to do with stamina, being in the form drains mana from around him in order to maintain it, Puck doesn't stop draining mana and freezing everything until the entire world is frozen.
Doesn't really have anything to do with stamina, being in the form drains mana from around him in order to maintain it, Puck doesn't stop draining mana and freezing everything until the entire world is frozen.
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So, the guy just stands there and Salem is done for? Isn't the same thing with guys who just stand there and win?
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@Celestial So wait, that means he will eventually run out of mana to drain? Doesnt that mean he'll eventually revert from this form?
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Not really, he stops when he freezes the world cause by then he gets killed by Reinhard van Astrea.
Though it's arguable whether he actually gets that far before Reinhard takes him out.
Though it's arguable whether he actually gets that far before Reinhard takes him out.
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But what i mean is once he AZs the entire world would he be able to maintain his form?
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What's stated is that he froze the world, and by then he was still in the form, so yea can maintain it.
But as i said before it's arguable whether he actually froze the entire world cause Reinhard exists in the same country as him, and other ppl comparable to Reinhard exists in other countries, maybe he was just hiding from them the entire time who knows.
But if we take the feat at face value, he already froze the world and was still in his form, when Reinhard showed up to end him.
But as i said before it's arguable whether he actually froze the entire world cause Reinhard exists in the same country as him, and other ppl comparable to Reinhard exists in other countries, maybe he was just hiding from them the entire time who knows.
But if we take the feat at face value, he already froze the world and was still in his form, when Reinhard showed up to end him.
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Ah okay, then yeah this would still be incon
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It could be in a sense that before he could freeze that place too it might be too far and he was interrupted.
That said I hold my doubts on becoming an eternal punching bag/freezing bag is really tie worthy but I'll toss in a tie vote FRA
That said I hold my doubts on becoming an eternal punching bag/freezing bag is really tie worthy but I'll toss in a tie vote FRA
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I think he just stands there and Salem gets frozen until he gets bored of it.
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Idk
It'll be like just standing there and breathing. Can't get bored of breathing if it's always gonna happen lol
Wait... Is her regen only Low-High? Turn into a puddle? Wouldn't that puddle just be frozen and... you know.. .stop regenning?
It'll be like just standing there and breathing. Can't get bored of breathing if it's always gonna happen lol
Wait... Is her regen only Low-High? Turn into a puddle? Wouldn't that puddle just be frozen and... you know.. .stop regenning?
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She regenerates as long as the God of Light exists
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Is that a factor here?
Even with that in mind tho someone's gotta update that regen or immortality section of her page then.
Even with that in mind tho someone's gotta update that regen or immortality section of her page then.
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How do you actually kill someone who relies on the existence of someone completely outside of the match?WeeklyBattles said:
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It's pretty unfair honestly.
I mean, she's just gonna keep on living and the worst she gets is to be an endless punching bag. Removing my vote from a tie actually.
I mean, she's just gonna keep on living and the worst she gets is to be an endless punching bag. Removing my vote from a tie actually.
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Tbh Salem's regen should be Low Godly.
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Why doesn't she has it set tho?
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Why?Schnee One said:
Also, I vote for Puck, he just stands there and Salem gets frozen time and time again, it counts as incap.
